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re: So what happens when Trump loses Again?
Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:45 pm to GRTiger
Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:45 pm to GRTiger
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Or does he limp into the general election with much less support than he enjoys currently and loses votes from 2020?
Oh great, Team Only-Trump is already preparing for this stupid argument again.
Let's all hope voter turnout doesn't stay the same or increase compared to 2020, or everyone will be subject to four years of retards citing total vote numbers as evidence of fraud.
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Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:47 pm to davyjones
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minorities (or “pluralities” if you wish) don’t achieve party nominations in primaries.
They do. Donald John Trump was the 2016 Republican nominee for President. He did not receive a majority of Republican primary votes in 2016.
We are discussing popularity, not whether a plurality candidate can win a particular election. Obviously they can, have, and do often because major party nominations and POTUS elections are not determined by raw national majority vote.
This post was edited on 9/11/23 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:48 pm to davyjones
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Ok, so like I said, minorities (or “pluralities” if you wish) don’t achieve party nominations in primaries.
Except that they can everywhere but those 10-12 states.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:56 pm to Indefatigable
What the frick are you talking about?
Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:58 pm to GRTiger
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What the frick are you talking about?
People like you who evoke 2020 vote totals to mean anything other than more people voted, or who say that gaining votes in an election with increased turnout is evidence of increased popularity for Trump.
For example, if 70% of the eligible population votes, Trump will receive more votes than 2020 and still lose the election. People like you will then point to his total and say “see he’s not unpopular he gained votes!!!1”
This post was edited on 9/11/23 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 9/11/23 at 2:00 pm to RollTide4Ever
America is not going to vote Donald trump into office. The only issue with people is that Biden is so freaking old it leaves a lot to ask for.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 2:04 pm to blueboxer1119
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I enjoy laughing at the melting bitches.
Melt bitches melt.
Man...this OP triggered the ronbots and their comrades no doubt.
Sad how they'll celebrate Trumps loss so they can get the "told you so". Cause they either support someone who can't win the primary but can definitely win the general, since the GE is 110% legit secure obvi OR they support the groomer party.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 2:05 pm to RollTide4Ever
The country continues to follow California's decline until we are no more.
Wonder when the tipping point is so bad that illegals start leaving instead stopping here.
Wonder when the tipping point is so bad that illegals start leaving instead stopping here.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 2:06 pm to Indefatigable
He turned out my voters in 2020 than in 2016. For an incumbent, that doesn't mean he got less popular does it?
Posted on 9/11/23 at 2:07 pm to Tvilletiger
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America is not going to vote Donald trump into office.
And what Repub will America vote in with "bet the house" certainty?
Posted on 9/11/23 at 2:07 pm to GRTiger
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He turned out my voters in 2020 than in 2016. For an incumbent, that doesn't mean he got less popular does it?
No. It means he got more votes. Popularity is a measure of support within a given population (here, total voters).
If he received less votes as a percentage of total votes than he did in 2016, then he was less popular in 2020 than he was in 2016 amongst voters.
Do you think Mitt Romney was more popular in 2012 than Dwight Eisenhower was in 1952? If not, explain, because he got more votes than Eisenhower did.
This post was edited on 9/11/23 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 9/11/23 at 2:09 pm to Indefatigable
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For example, if 70% of the eligible population votes, Trump will receive more votes than 2020 and still lose the election.
It's not guaranteed that he would increase his votes or lose in this scenario. Which is why I didn't mention turnout in the post that got your pussy all sandy. The point I was making that your current unneeded anger won't let you comprehend is if he loses obvious support ahead of the general for whatever reason, many will accept it sans obvious fraud. Using context, I'm going to assume you assumed I meant the exact opposite.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 2:09 pm to Flats
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Except that they can everywhere but those 10-12 states.
In which case in those other states the winner is the candidate who receives the majority of votes amongst all candidates on the ballot. Maybe we are locked horns in semantics. Majority doesn’t necessarily mean “50% + 1,” it’s also quite reasonably considered “the greatest number amongst all.” But in any case it would seem a bit asinine to dismiss the overall winner of the national primary process as an irrelevant “minority.” Not that I’m tagging you on that specifically, just a general observation considering the topic.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 2:11 pm to davyjones
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Majority doesn’t necessarily mean “50% + 1,
No, it unequivocally and universally means 50% + 1
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it’s also quite reasonably considered “the greatest number amongst all.”
No, it doesn’t. That is the very definition of plurality, which is inherently a minority of overall votes.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 2:15 pm to Indefatigable
No, 50 + 1 is not the “unequivocal and universal” definition of majority. All you have to do is look it up. Oftentimes terms have more meanings than just the one you are using. Same with plurality.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 2:17 pm to RollTide4Ever
Desantis in 2028!!
Posted on 9/11/23 at 2:21 pm to davyjones
Pretending that "majority" in a political or electoral context means or has ever meant anything other than "more than half of the total" is such a bizarre position to double down on.
Can you link anything whatsoever that refers to a political candidate receiving less than 50% +1 of total votes in any election as having received a majority of votes?
Posted on 9/11/23 at 2:26 pm to RollTide4Ever
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So what happens when a fake emergency happens and we don’t have elections?
FIFY
Posted on 9/11/23 at 2:28 pm to RollTide4Ever
A question I'd love an answer to is if Trump believes the 2020 election was stolen from him and nothing has been changed since to stop another theft in 2024, why would he waste time, energy, and resources to run again?
What are his supporters to do after being convinced the election was stolen, last time around? Vote harder, somehow?
I voted for Trump twice, but I'd love to read answers to the questions above.
What are his supporters to do after being convinced the election was stolen, last time around? Vote harder, somehow?
I voted for Trump twice, but I'd love to read answers to the questions above.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 2:28 pm to RollTide4Ever
inflation continues to crush us for 4 more years
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