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re: Sonic commercials very woke
Posted on 3/14/21 at 3:33 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Posted on 3/14/21 at 3:33 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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This thread is 8 pages and still growing? My outrage meter must be pegged out because this isn’t even registering with me.
I dunno man, I can't think of a more dangerous system for intersectionality to leak into besides entertainment media and the commercials sandwiched in-between.
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Posted on 3/14/21 at 3:34 pm to jimmy the leg
It’s all about suppressing and belittling straight white men. That’s the current agenda going on in America.
This post was edited on 3/14/21 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 3/14/21 at 4:00 pm to ZIGG
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It’s all about suppressing and belittling straight white men. That’s the current agenda going on in America.
I view that as being process driven. And btw, it isn’t just straight white men. Conservative Black men are under attack as well. “White” Hispanics too. Rural Blacks are dismissed entirely. As of late, even Asians have recently been in the proverbial crosshairs of the Democratic communazis. The question remains, if this is the social engineering project that it seems to be (at least to me), then what is the goal?
My guess is...as MTV is presenting, Madame President seems to be the goal. If you are opposed, you are racist, bigoted, xenophobic, or an “Uncle Tom.”
This post was edited on 3/14/21 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 3/14/21 at 4:08 pm to Azkiger
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I don't think there's any data on interracial couple representation in commercials and ads, it's not outlandish to assume much of the same.
Let's not lose track of what we're discussing here: a difference of skin color between couples portrayed in ads. That's it. A phenomenon that most everyone it has already stated they don't take issue with in the slightest (allegedly).
What, pray tell, is the magic threshold of representation in ads that must not be crossed in order for the apparently fragile sensibilities of American society to not be upset? Even as said society experiences an unprecedented acceleration. That is the linchpin response no one designs to answer, just gets upset at seeing yet another interracial couple. It's asinine.
The percentage of gay population is more or less fixed. The number of IR couples is rising. Rapidly. Frankly, trying to compare it to gay advertising is myopic, at best. Attempting to equivocate interracial relationships in ads with wokeisms like toxic masculinity or coke saying "be less white" is flat out preposterous. You're talking about missing the point completely? You're comparing apples and oranges here, my guy, then calling the whole thing "intersectionality and calling it a day. Not gonna work.
Posted on 3/14/21 at 4:13 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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That is the linchpin response no one designs to answer, just gets upset at seeing yet another interracial couple. It's asinine.
Agreed.
Now how the characters are portrayed is the facet that I find fascinating. An interracial couple in a car at the Sonics is an everyday occurrence in the real world. I don’t consider that to be a “woke” aspect, but rather just a visual aspect of reality. Additionally, it makes financial sense for Sonic to do so.
However, in other commercials, with almost every position of authority being a black woman...it seems odd to me. Some, sure, but that isn’t what I have seen. It seems like a concerted effort on the part of Madison Ave which isn’t necessarily financially driven (which makes NO SENSE based on history).
This post was edited on 3/14/21 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 3/14/21 at 4:15 pm to ZIGG
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It’s all about suppressing and belittling straight white men.
Posted on 3/14/21 at 4:20 pm to Tiger in Texas
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Asian woman with the black husband.
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I just don't understand why they keep pushing this agenda,
The photographer who took our maternity photos and takes all the pics of our kids is an Asian woman married to a black guy
They go to our church here in San Antonio and have three kids themselves. Been married longer than my wife and I, I believe! They took this photo of Quattro and Brightness: 
Posted on 3/14/21 at 4:23 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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The percentage of gay population is more or less fixed. The number of IR couples is rising. Rapidly. Frankly, trying to compare it to gay advertising is myopic, at best. Attempting to equivocate interracial relationships in ads with wokeisms like toxic masculinity or coke saying "be less white" is flat out preposterous. You're talking about missing the point completely? You're comparing apples and oranges here, my guy, then calling the whole thing "intersectionality and calling it a day. Not gonna work.
They always try to lump interracial couples in with the gays. They're obviously two very different things that aren't connected. But they think it bolsters their argument that all these things fall under the big SJW/Woke/Intersectionality tent. I know a lot of interracially married couples, most of them the wm/bw variety, and none of them are the woke/SJW types. Most of them are conservative and ex-military. The intersectionality thing is a false premise.
Posted on 3/14/21 at 4:24 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:Damn, that boy is getting big.
photo of Quattro and Brightness
My oldest girl topped 5-foot this month!
First pic I’ve seen of your daughter since right after birth. Cutie.
Posted on 3/14/21 at 4:24 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 3/14/21 at 4:26 pm to jimmy the leg
Yeah and that actually does get into a larger issue of male/female dynamics that have been askew in advertising for awhile. Very interesting and kinda goes beyond even race, with women being portrayed much more authoritatively next to men than usual.
Posted on 3/14/21 at 4:30 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Let's not lose track of what we're discussing here: a difference of skin color between couples portrayed in ads. That's it. A phenomenon that most everyone it has already stated they don't take issue with in the slightest (allegedly).
That's only half of it, we're also talking about numbers and representation.
Surely you'd at least admit that if every couple presented in media and commercials were interracial some sort of criticism would be warranted, right?
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What, pray tell, is the magic threshold of representation in ads that must not be crossed in order for the apparently fragile sensibilities of American society to not be upset? Even as said society experiences an unprecedented acceleration. That is the linchpin response no one designs to answer, just gets upset at seeing yet another interracial couple. It's asinine.
First, the growth looks fairly constant.
So maybe settle down with the 'unprecedented acceleration' talk. As far as numbers go, I can't give you any. Nor could you give me any with respect to a magical threshold of representation in ads must at least be met for the apparently fragile sensibilities of American society not to be upset. That's a silly gotcha.
I think as a general rule, trying to roughly hit what the population is currently at is a decent goal. But, judging by how the same media is handling the LGBTQ demographic, isn't close to what's currently happening.
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The percentage of gay population is more or less fixed. The number of IR couples is rising. Rapidly. Frankly, trying to compare it to gay advertising is myopic, at best.
Myopic at best huh? Maybe you can calm down enough to remember barely an hour ago when I said that intersectionality was what was happening here. Sexuality and race are two of the three highest rungs on that totem poll. My comparison to the two considering what I've discussed so far is 100% spot on, and no amount of hand waving from you will change that.
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Attempting to equivocate interracial relationships in ads with wokeisms like toxic masculinity or coke saying "be less white" is flat out preposterous.
If only "How perposterious!" were a form of argument. Do you have anything outside of outrage to back up that assertion?
Posted on 3/14/21 at 4:34 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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They always try to lump interracial couples in with the gays.
Doesn't intersectionality do just that?
Maybe you missed that GLAAD link where they weren't just concerned with LGBTQ representation, but LGBTQ people of color representation?
No, of course you didn't. Because that cuts against your shitty arguments.
Posted on 3/14/21 at 4:54 pm to Azkiger
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Doesn't intersectionality do just that?
I don't give a shite if they do or not, none of them asked us if we wanted to be included in their nefarious plans. If your ilk and the intersectionality peeps want to fight about interracial relationships, something you're not even a part of, knock yourselves out. Let me grab some popcorn first before you guys start fighting over how we should be treated.
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Maybe you missed that GLAAD link where they weren't just concerned with LGBTQ representation, but LGBTQ people of color representation?
Yeah, I still don't give a shite. Most interracial couples aren't interested in being a political prop for two different camps of assholes.
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No, of course you didn't. Because that cuts against your shitty arguments.
I'm not really making an argument, I'm saying frick them and frick you, too. Stop worrying about what other people do with their lives and how seeing them on the tv bothers your sensitive little feefees. "Waaah, they're trying to make white men seem dumb and powerless." No, you're doing that to yourself. You don't like seeing interracial couples on tv? Tough shite, turn the tv off or breed a dozen dirty white kids with some trailer park slore and stfu.
Posted on 3/14/21 at 4:58 pm to Saint Alfonzo
Don't worry, it's quite clear you don't give enough of a shite about what I'm discussing to accurately insert your opinion into it. But thanks for admitting it.
Posted on 3/14/21 at 5:22 pm to Azkiger
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Don't worry, it's quite clear you don't give enough of a shite about what I'm discussing to accurately insert your opinion into it. But thanks for admitting it.
Yeah, you're trying to toss interracial couples into the intersectionality salad. It's a nonsense argument, and I'm telling you, seeing as I'm actually in an interracial marriage, that your premise is bullshite. Most of us don't give a crap about intersectionality. That's you, and them, trying to use us as political pawns. In this thread, the only ones I'm aware of that are giving accurate opinions are myself and TBird. Experience trumps your bullshite, every time. Go cry in the corner again because some black guy shared his french fries.
Posted on 3/14/21 at 5:24 pm to Azkiger
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That's only half of it, we're also talking about numbers and representation.
Of the subject I described. My point stands.
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if every couple presented in media and commercials were interracial some sort of criticism would be warranted, right?
Hmm. Let's think about that for a second. If, as we all agree, none of us have a problem with interracial relationships, then the objective response would be "no," I suppose. Unless you're also the type to criticize when couples of different hair color are portrayed together. Because as far as relationship compatibility goes, it's about the same level of importance. Speaking from experience btw. I'll grant that it might be "remarkable," not warranting of criticism.
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First, the growth looks fairly constant. ? So maybe settle down with the 'unprecedented acceleration' talk.
Nah. Unless you can point to a more marked growth in our nation's history. Keeping in mind Loving v. Virginia was just over 50 years ago.
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As far as numbers go, I can't give you any. Nor could you give me any with respect to a magical threshold of representation in ads must at least be met for the apparently fragile sensibilities of American society not to be upset. That's a silly gotcha.
Not a gotcha at all. I'm not the one upset about "overrepresentation" here. Others itt are. Yet when I ask where an acceptable threshold is supposed to be, I get crickets. Can't saddle me with a "gotcha" on this one, man.
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as a general rule, trying to roughly hit what the population is currently at is a decent goal.
Why? And, keep in mind, that number is steadily climbing year over year, yet people are STILL bitching.
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judging by how the same media is handling the LGBTQ demographic
Stupid equivalence. Eschew it.
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Myopic at best huh? Maybe you can calm down enough
Why must I be upset to make an observation that something is myopic? Come on
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My comparison to the two considering what I've discussed so far is 100% spot on, and no amount of hand waving from you will change that.
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My comparison to the two considering what I've discussed so far is 100% spot on, and no amount of hand waving from you will change that.
Incorrect. You attempted to compare a relatively fixed population to one that is experiencing it's most marked growth in our nation's history, with no signs of slowing down. It was a terrible comparison. Demonstrating such is not "hand waving," much as I'm sure you'd love to derail the thread into such to obfuscate the false equivalence you attempted to make
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If only "How perposterious!" were a form of argument.
If only that were the argument I made. Alas, for you, it was not. Try again.
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Do you have anything outside of outrage to back up that assertion?
Tell me, does this gambit of yours of pretending someone who disagrees with you is "outraged" actually work on other people?
Sophomoric, but I can see how it might catch someone looking every now and then.This post was edited on 3/14/21 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 3/14/21 at 5:32 pm to TbirdSpur2010
That son of yours is gonna break some hearts.
I don’t know much about interracial stats but it does seem that ad commies are all in for white guy and black woman with the white guy being weaker.
It’s weird.
I don’t know much about interracial stats but it does seem that ad commies are all in for white guy and black woman with the white guy being weaker.
It’s weird.
This post was edited on 3/14/21 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 3/14/21 at 5:48 pm to roadGator
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it does seem that ad commies are all in for white guy and black woman with the white guy being weaker. It’s weird.
Is it?
FWIW, There seems to be an assumption in the thread about interracial percentages as related to the percentages being portrayed on tv. That is irrelevant to me as I could not care less. My issue are the roles played by the characters themselves and what, if anything, is being imparted (intentionally...as I surmise) or otherwise. I am of the opinion that it is being done by design as the dynamics shown are relatively recent and coincide with Kamala Harris being fronted as the heir apparent to the throne of lies. I asked T-bird as I respect his opinion, especially given that he may view the scenario from a different perspective than me (academically and culturally).
Posted on 3/14/21 at 5:48 pm to roadGator
Thanks man he's lucky he's good looking with my homely butt as his daddy (and I still can't believe I get to be a dad).
The thing with the males/females is weird, and like I said earlier, it kinda supersedes race, too. Here's where I need to do some research to back my claims up, but more often than not, ad companies will choose to make the woman more competent than the man in a direct comparison of the male/female dynamic these days. Almost to a fault.
The thing with the males/females is weird, and like I said earlier, it kinda supersedes race, too. Here's where I need to do some research to back my claims up, but more often than not, ad companies will choose to make the woman more competent than the man in a direct comparison of the male/female dynamic these days. Almost to a fault.
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