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re: This sure sounds like a terrorist organization to me

Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:46 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:46 pm to
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Oh, they are fully aware. But they are politically expedient, so will be defended to the death


Nobody is "stumping" for TDA
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
96357 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:46 pm to
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We ... are ... siding ... with ... the ... rule ... of ... law, not with the criminals.


Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:46 pm to
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they are muscle/soldiers for the cartel. Hard to say they are worse than any other tier 1 gang because they are all killers, difference here is they have cartel resources and access to just about anything (money, political cover-you are seeing this now, intel, etc.) These dudes are the real deal, bad mofo's
All true (well, except for the misuse of the apostrophe).

None of that, however, converts them from "violent criminal gang" into "international terrorist organization."

Terrorists' aims are political or ideological.

What are the "political or ideological" aims of TdA? None that I have seen articulated.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45129 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:46 pm to
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We ... are ... siding ... with ... the ... rule ... of ... law


Odd how the "rule of law" only seems to be injunctions by judges appointed by Democrats. And they have to shop around on top of that.

It's almost like it's not about rule of law....but politics. But you'll never admit that.

That is why no one takes you or SFP seriously. You spout rule of law, but only when it's politically expedient to your personal point of view.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 9:48 pm
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
11125 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:47 pm to
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We ... are ... siding ... with ... the ... rule ... of ... law, not with the criminals.


You are defacto siding with the criminals.

And you are interpreting the law in your head the way you are because of politics.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471618 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:49 pm to
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You are defacto siding with the criminals.


Defending constitutional rights of citizens almost always "defacto sides with criminals"

You think we get cases to litigate and limit government power without government exercising that power? No. The government has to act, and in this area it's action against criminals. To ensure government only acts within their legal authority, we as a society has to litigate cases involving criminals...often guilty, terrible criminals. That's the nature of our system.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78937 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:50 pm to
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They did make sure they are gang bangers. Can you prove they are not?


i think the DOJ admitting that many don’t have criminal records in the US or the government doesn’t have specific information about them helps the argument.



Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45129 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:50 pm to
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Defending constitutional rights of citizens


But we're not talking about citizens. We're talking about illegal aliens.

But you know that. You just disagree with the politics.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
195613 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:50 pm to
Are you claiming that we are friends?



You were accused of telling people that you and I are buddies

I told them you would never say that
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78937 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:51 pm to
They spent 4 years crying about Jan 6th protestors (who had court dates and many plead guilty) and it tools them 2.5 months to be like “frick habeas corpus”
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33822 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:52 pm to
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An appeal to the Circuit Court, the same as in any other case.

Not with planes already ordered by the President/Commander and Chief to depart

In fact, they filed your appeal, and there has been no urgency to respond
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471618 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:52 pm to
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But we're not talking about citizens. We're talking about illegal aliens.

Irrelevant to the legal discussion, especially the argument that the executive cannot have any of its actions in this area reviewed (as that could immediately impact citizens).

But the comment was general, anyway. The rulings on limitations of federal power and the role of the judiciary does apply to citizens.

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You just disagree with the politics.

The authoritarianism? Yes.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27414 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:52 pm to
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On 11 April 2024, Chilean authorities implicated Tren de Aragua in the murder of Ronald Ojeda, a Venezuelan political dissident and opponent to Nicolás Maduro who had been living in exile in Chile. Ronald was kidnapped on 21 February and his body was discovered 10 days later inside a bag which had been cemented over. Chilean authorities accused Venezuela's interior minister, Diosdado Cabello, of ordering Tren de Aragua to carry out the killing and paying the assassins.
Peru

Due to Tren de Aragua's heavy presence in Lima, there were increased sentiments of xenophobia against Venezuelans. Following clashes between Peruvians and Venezuelan migrants at the Gamarra Market in Lima, the "Los Gallegos" chapter of the Tren de Aragua released a video stating "There will be no peace for Peruvians who support xenophobia. We will begin to kill all the Peruvian motorized people", threatening to kill Peruvian motortaxi drivers. In 2023 alone, at least 183 suspected members were arrested.


Notice how Displaced, Boosie, Sammy, Aggie, SFP all ignored the OPs post about TdA being a terrorist org.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20670 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:53 pm to
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We ... are ... siding ... with ... the ... opposite ... of ... Trump, not with the criminals.
FIFY
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Sometimes, the "rule of law" benefits criminals. It is what it is.
And THERE it is, ladies and germs.

EVERY time they pop up in a thread it is to use their version of the rule of law to go against the work being done to try to save this nation.

By all means do not allow OMB to spit on the sidewalk. Call it following the law.

I rest my case.

Redbone out
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471618 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:53 pm to
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Notice how Displaced, Boosie, Sammy, Aggie, SFP all ignored the OPs post about TdA being a terrorist org.

If the admin feels this way, they should litigate this in court with evidence to show compliance with the statutory authority granted to the executive.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:54 pm to
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To ensure government only acts within their legal authority, we as a society has to litigate cases involving criminals...often guilty, terrible criminals. That's the nature of our system.
In other words, Ernesto Miranda was a piece of shite criminal, but that does not change the fact that the Constitution guarantees the advice of counsel to criminal defendants.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
87936 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:54 pm to
4 years or about how long some sat waiting for a day in court.

You fricks were silent.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471618 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:54 pm to
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EVERY time they pop up in a thread it is to use their version of the rule of law to go against the work being done to try to save this nation.

If he's acting illegally, it matters not how positive his actions are in "saving this nation". They're still illegal.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27414 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:54 pm to
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If the admin feels this way, they should litigate this in court with evidence to show compliance with the statutory authority granted to the executive.


Does what is described sound like a terrorist org to you?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471618 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:55 pm to
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4 years or about how long some sat waiting for a day in court.

You fricks were silent.

I was educating y'all on how this was due process unfolding and watching a lot of hypocrisy from your ilk about bail policy and purported belief in being anti-violent criminals.
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