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Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:59 am to GumboPot
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1. Al Udeid Air Base (hosts 83 Expeditionary Air Group, RAF operational HQ in Middle East) Qatar 2. Al Minhad Air Base (permanent RAF facilities) United Arab Emirates 3. Al Musannah Air Base (RAF access for operations) Oman 4. RAF Akrotiri (Permanent Joint Operating Base) Cyprus
Of these only Cyprus would require UK authorization I believe.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:59 am to Indefatigable
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We likely aren’t flying out of an Arab or Gulf country to do this anyway.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:03 am to Jbird
I think Trump would’ve started bombing Iran during the height of the protests had it not been for ME countries not allowing use of their bases. So we had to wait on the carrier to get there and by this point I think we’ve convinced the Arabs to let us use their bases and will probably wait for the Bush carrier group to get on station before starting hostilities.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:06 am to BOHICAMAN
quote:So hundreds of aircraft flown into Arab bases are static display aircraft?
I think Trump would’ve started bombing Iran during the height of the protests had it not been for ME countries not allowing use of their bases. So we had to wait on the carrier to get there and by this point I think we’ve convinced the Arabs to let us use their bases and will probably wait for the Bush carrier group to get on station before starting hostilities.
The Arabs want us to deal with the Persians.
They simply can't have a nuke armed Iran holding the area hostage.
It's why they allowed Israel over flight the last time.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:09 am to Jbird
I don’t see us launching a massive strike out of Qatar given their relationship with Iran and role as a mediator in the region.
Could be wrong though.
Could be wrong though.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:10 am to Jbird
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So hundreds of aircraft flown into Arab bases are static display aircraft?
Known as a “don’t even sortie your aircraft” force. I’d think the actual strike will come from the heavies out of CONUS or elsewhere, and the CSG’s.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:11 am to Indefatigable
quote:Qatar is paid to be the intermediary with the Persians, it's why they allowed Israel to over fly their country.
I don’t see us launching a massive strike out of Qatar given their relationship with Iran and role as a mediator in the region.
Those aircraft in Qatar, Bahrain, Jordan, and UAE will be used.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:11 am to Jbird
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So hundreds of aircraft flown into Arab bases are static display aircraft? The Arabs want us to deal with the Persians. They simply can't have a nuke armed Iran holding the area hostage. It's why they allowed Israel over flight the last time.
Well that’s why we didn’t strike weeks ago. I’m pretty sure the Israelis wanted us to wait too. My thinking is that they all wanted us to get more air and missile defense assets into place before we started bombing. That’s why so much of the heavy lift going into the ME has been carrying air defense assets and the Bush strike group will position itself off the coast of Israel to help defend against missile attacks.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:12 am to Indefatigable
quote:This is setting up for sustained bombardment, not a one off.
Known as a “don’t even sortie your aircraft” force. I’d think the actual strike will come from the heavies out of CONUS or elsewhere, and the CSG’s.
You don't send over a hundred tankers down stream to watch CNN.
You don't flow that many AWACS aircraft into the theater unless you intend on 24hr operations.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:13 am to BOHICAMAN
quote:And the aircraft will come out of those bases mentioned.
Well that’s why we didn’t strike weeks ago. I’m pretty sure the Israelis wanted us to wait too. My thinking is that they all wanted us to get more air and missile defense assets into place before we started bombing. That’s why so much of the heavy lift going into the ME has been carrying air defense assets and the Bush strike group will position itself off the coast of Israel to help defend against missile attacks.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:14 am to Indefatigable
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I don’t see us launching a massive strike out of Qatar given their relationship with Iran and role as a mediator in the region. Could be wrong though.
Udied will most likely host ISR and tanker assets. Most of the strike aircraft will launch out of Jordan and Saudi Arabia and from the aircraft carriers.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:16 am to Jbird
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And the aircraft will come out of those bases mentioned.
Yes, I’m not sure what we’re arguing here.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:16 am to cajunangelle
Why would they help? We don’t want to be part of NATO.
Why is everyone yelling at the sky?
Why is everyone yelling at the sky?
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:17 am to BOHICAMAN
quote:Someone suggested the Arabs aren't allowing USAF assets to operate that's why we needed to wait for another CBG to arrive.
Yes, I’m not sure what we’re arguing here.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:20 am to Jbird
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Someone suggested the Arabs aren't allowing USAF assets to operate that's why we needed to wait for another CBG to arrive.
Wasn’t me. I doubted (and doubt) that we’ll launch strikes out of them, but I could be wrong. Thinking more support roles, but if this ends up some protracted disaster of continuing operations, then yea I imagine we’ll use everything.
My initial read on not using their bases was on the premise that it would be a one off. If it’s not, all bets off.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:21 am to Jbird
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Someone suggested the Arabs aren't allowing USAF assets to operate that's why we needed to wait for another CBG to arrive.
I suggested that’s we didn’t attack weeks ago after Trump’s initial threats. Most likely because they wanted us to send more air defense batteries to the region before beginning the strikes. I think Israel also wanted us to wait. In about a week everything will be in place for an extended air campaign with support and clearance from all parties to use their bases.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:21 am to Indefatigable
quote:Yeah you don't deploy that many assets for a one off.
My initial read on not using their bases was on the premise that it would be a one off. If it’s not, all bets off.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:22 am to Indefatigable
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My initial read on not using their bases was on the premise that it would be a one off. If it’s not, all bets off.
It definitely won’t be a one off. The goal is regime change.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:23 am to Jbird
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Yeah you don't deploy that many assets for a one off.
Which begs the question of WTF the plan is.
If we’re going all in on sustained bombing and missile operations, what is that supposed to accomplish without some sort of stabilizing force on the ground?
With this many assets, I doubt playing whackamole at Natanz is the goal.
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