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Posted on 6/10/23 at 10:06 am to
Posted by Kreg Jennings
Parts Unknown
Member since Aug 2007
3929 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 10:06 am to
I bet you harbor a fair amount of conspiracy theories.

If I were you, I’d focus on taking care of my family. Financially, medically, etc. It takes more effort to post on here making excuses why not to succeed in those areas.
Posted by Browncd81
Member since Nov 2020
534 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 10:49 am to
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I don’t question science


Declaring that something can’t be questioned isn’t science. That is dogma.

Remember learning about the Pythagorean THEOREM? Even something seemingly as settled as the formula for lengths of a right triangle is still called a THEORY in the seemingly impossible change it is disproven. That is how humble science actually is about establishing settled facts.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 10:50 am to
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autism


Forced on the public to create obedient drones.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4793 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 10:51 am to
“or you can read the scientific literature.Your call.”

Who in hell can trust the “scientific literature “ anymore.Science has been corrupted by the Medical Industrial Complex,Scientists are not much more than whores,results of studies invariably show results the entity providing the money wants.

Same goes for nutritional science.First of all the American Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics controls education and licensing of dietitians.The organization recieves majority of their funding from food industry.Doubt one would get much honest nutritional information from them.

American Academy of Pediatrics now supports “ gender affirmitive care” for children which includes hormone “therapy” and “surgical removal or augmentation of breasts,genitals or other physical features”.
Somehow,I am skeptical their vaccine recommendations are promulgated in the best interest of children.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 10:53 am to
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Great comeback, science denier

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I don't question science


Because you don't understand science.

Questioning is one of the biggest elements of the scientific method.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26713 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 10:54 am to
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If a manuscript is published, the science has already been settled and is subsequently immune from further criticism or questioning.


That is the opposite of science.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26713 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 10:59 am to
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my 15 year old was a happy, laughing, social infant/toddler up until he had a bad reaction to his MMR vaccine.


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After that point, he was no longer social




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Now, did the MMR vaccine cause his Autism? No, I don't think so.


What am I missing here? Why do you think this happened if not for the event that directly preceded it?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:00 am to
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If a manuscript is published, the science has already been settled and is subsequently immune from further criticism or questioning.


That is the opposite of science.


Most people who trust the science don't understand science.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:06 am to
I don’t know if it’s vaccines, but I think something is wrong. Maybe it’s our food supply, and the pesticides we use, maybe it’s plastics, maybe it’s the hormones in our water systems. But something is wrong.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:08 am to
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I have two kids


Well that's unfortunate.

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potential vaccine -> autism risk


Judging by your intelligence, you should be a lot more concerned with your own genetics.

Have fun when one of your kids steps on a nail and gets tetanus.
Posted by Browncd81
Member since Nov 2020
534 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:17 am to
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you can poll the opinions of a bunch of yahoos on the Internet, or you can read the scientific literature. Your call.


Constant breaches of trust, even before Covid, make your latter option untenable.

I think scientists are after one thing - career/honoraria, not truth. We also know that journals don’t like to publish science research that contradicts past research that was published. That is dangerous! That disincentives confirmation studies. It seems like the way to move forward in your career is to accept research as truth. So I don’t think they’re practicing pure science anymore.

How can things like the opioid epidemic happen for example if science, as practiced here, is as trustworthy as you guys think it is?

Note, I’m an engineer / technical person. I’m not attacking the concept of science IF IT IS PRACTICED AS DESIGNED
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:25 am to
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I think scientists are after one thing - career/honoraria, not truth.


Well if there's one thing this board is known for, it's the truth.

Don't vaccinate your kids, no one cares.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
57509 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:25 am to
Yeah. And if my kid dies of measles or whooping cough because your nasty kids weren't vaccinated, you should be prosecuted for manslaughter or I should be able to seek justice from you
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39103 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:33 am to
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No!
Sorry! Lying has consequences!

Any field expert is capable of misusing knowledge and talking circles around a lay public audience. So the audience is left to trust the expert is not deliberately misleading them.

Once that trust is breached (repeatedly), the "fricking idiot" is actually the guy still believing everything the same "experts" continue to spout.
Aren't you a doctor? You should stop spewing this nonsense. I don't disagree about blind trust, but if you are actually advising real people to stop giving their children measles vaccines and the like, that is malpractice.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39103 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:34 am to
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You can have the doses allocated to my family you MF Choade. Your people scream my body my choice, then want to force the Fauci Ouchie on everyone.

You can kiss my hairy arse.
Can I also have your allocation of car seats and seat belts? Stop being an idiot.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:34 am to
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I don't disagree about blind trust,


But you are supporting it.
Posted by ShinerHorns
El Paso
Member since Jul 2021
5617 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:35 am to
Anyone giving their kids vaccines should be arrested for child abuse.
Posted by Browncd81
Member since Nov 2020
534 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:45 am to
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Judging by your intelligence, you should be a lot more concerned with your own genetics. Have fun when one of your kids steps on a nail and gets tetanus.


Ah, Mr Intelligent - show me in my OP where I said I plan to give my children zero vaccines.

I plan on watching closer the risk vs reward. I picked up some good advice already on this thread about limiting to one shot per visit. Worth looking in to.

I tend to form my views on a multitude of sources. There is not time to fully research everything. But when it comes to the health of my kids, the institutions that covered up opioids, original dangers of Teflon, smoking risks, etc end up being one of the things I’m willing to invest my limited time into diving deeper
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11345 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:48 am to
I would be very careful. The number of vaccines and administration patterns are the problem. I had 6 vaccines by the time I was 5. My daughters all got 36 shots by the age of 3. That cannot be good for the immune system.
Posted by Browncd81
Member since Nov 2020
534 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:50 am to
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Well if there's one thing this board is known for, it's the truth


If there’s one thing this board is known for, it is a justifiable and healthy distrust of institutions.

It is unreasonable to then expect a group that distrusts institutions to be able to discover all of the truth accurately - we don’t have access to all of the information. But I bet you this board gets it right far more often than sheep who trust the government
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