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Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:37 pm to jrodLSUke
quote:And yet the state chose to let them out? Weird.
And the blood evidence on Demon’s necklace linked to, not one, but two of the victims.
The evidence is clear. Those weirdos are child murderers.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:47 pm to jrodLSUke
quote:
And the blood evidence on Demon’s necklace linked to, not one, but two of the victims.
You have the facts so mixed up, I’m embarrassed for you. Or are you outright lying? I can’t keep track.
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:50 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Complete cop out. Either the DNA analysis in 2010 pointed to their guilt or it did not. Why would anyone have cared at all what a bunch of celebrities said if the DNA was dispositive that they were guilty?
Complete cop out indeed. If the DNA exonerated them, shout it from the rooftops, even if you cop Alford. Although I can’t imagine why you wouldn’t want to bilk the state for several million, when you have exonerating DNA in your back pocket.
And BTW, minimizing or ignoring the effect of these entertainers on the public in a place like West Memphis, or the entire state of Arkansas for that matter, is just ignorant. The people they influence vote, you know?
Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:55 pm to troyt37
quote:They were still in prison. Why is that so hard for you to understand? You're acting as if they had been sprung and then the only question before them was whether or not to take the deal or go to trial?
Complete cop out indeed. If the DNA exonerated them, shout it from the rooftops, even if you cop Alford. Although I can’t imagine why you wouldn’t want to bilk the state for several million, when you have exonerating DNA in your back pocket.
quote:Sure. It's just not applicable in this instance. Or at least not to the extreme extent you are casually assuming.
And BTW, minimizing or ignoring the effect of these entertainers on the public in a place like West Memphis, or the entire state of Arkansas for that matter, is just ignorant. The people they influence vote, you know?
Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:56 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
If this is true, then why would the state have offered a deal when they were already in prison?
Because of all the mounting pressure from Hollywood types that can afford to create a broadcast shitty documentaries like paradise lost.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:57 pm to Rebel
Again, DNA neither exonerated nor implicated anyone.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 3:11 pm to Rebel
quote:That would get them out of prison?
Because of all the mounting pressure from Hollywood types that can afford to create a broadcast shitty documentaries like paradise lost.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 3:11 pm to Rebel
quote:Then why didn't the state have the hearing and generate that finding?
Again, DNA neither exonerated nor implicated anyone.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 3:16 pm to Rebel
quote:
Again, DNA neither exonerated nor implicated anyone.
Exactly. There have been two publicly released DNA test results. Both use the same standard:
1. A hair found on Stevie Branch was consist with his stepfather, Terry Hobbs (and several million other people)
2. Blood found on a necklace worn by Baldwin and Echols (IIRC they would both wear it) was consistent with one of the boys (and several million other people)
Neither is conclusive. People will evaluate based on their initial biases. As I have stated, I just reject the inconsistency. One cannot create some crazy Terry Hobbes theory based on this evidence and concurrently ignore the necklace evidence.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 3:20 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
They were still in prison. Why is that so hard for you to understand? You're acting as if they had been sprung and then the only question before them was whether or not to take the deal or go to trial?
Because the point at which I have exonerating DNA, after maintaining my innocence for 18 years in what is most likely the highest profile murder case in Arkansas history, I know for a fact that I have the information to ruin everyone involved, and make myself a rich, rich, RICH man, by simply doing what I have already been doing for the last 18 years or so, for the next 6 months to a year. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
quote:
Sure. It's just not applicable in this instance. Or at least not to the extreme extent you are casually assuming.
You just doubled down on ignorance. The celebrity influence in this case cannot be overstated.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 4:07 pm to troyt37
quote:I never said the DNA was exonerating. I said if it was so obviously not terrible for the prosecution, why did the prosecution then respond by dealing to get them out of prison?
Because the point at which I have exonerating DNA, after maintaining my innocence for 18 years in what is most likely the highest profile murder case in Arkansas history, I know for a fact that I have the information to ruin everyone involved, and make myself a rich, rich, RICH man, by simply doing what I have already been doing for the last 18 years or so, for the next 6 months to a year. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
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You just doubled down on ignorance. The celebrity influence in this case cannot be overstated.
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Here's the list of celebs who want Mumia out of prison:
Adjoa A. Aiyetoro, Shana Alexander, Laurie Anderson, Maya Angelou, Paul Auster, Alec Baldwin, Russell Banks, John Perry Barlow, Richard J. Barnet, Derrick Bell, Dennis Brutus, David Byrne, Naomi Campbell, Robbie Conal, Denise Caruso, Noam Chomsky, Richard A. Cloward, Ben Cohen , Kerry Kennedy Cuomo, Ron Daniels, U.S. Rep. Ronald V. Dellums, Dominique de Menil, Jacques Derrida, David Dinkins, E. L. Doctorow , Roger Ebert, Jason Epstein, Susan Faludi, Mike Farrell, Timothy Ferris, Eileen Fisher, Henry Louis Gates, Terry Gilliam, Danny Glover, Leon Golub, Nadine Gordimer, Stephen Jay Gould, Günter Grass, Herbert Chao Gunther, Jack Healey, Edward S. Herman, Jim Hightower, James Hillman, bell hooks, Molly Ivins, Bill T. Jones, June Jordan, Mitchell Kapor, Casey Kasem, C. Clark Kissinger, Herbert Kohl, Jonathan Kozol, Tony Kushner, John Landis, Spike Lee, Edward Lewis, Maya Lin, Norman Mailer, Frederick Marx, Nion McEvoy, Bobby McFerrin, Susan Meiselas, Nancy Meyer, Pedro Meyer, Jessica Mitford, Michael Moore, Frank Moretti, James Parks Morton, Paul Newman, Peter Norton, Joyce Carol Oates, Dean Ornish, MD, Grace Paley, Alan Patricof, Martin D. Payson, Frances Fox Piven, Katha Pollit, Sister Helen Prejean, CSJ, Charles B. Rangel, Adrienne Rich, Tim Robbins, David A. Ross, Salman Rushdie, Susan Sarandon, Charles C. Savitt, André Schiffrin, Peter Sellers, Nancy Spero, Art Spiegelman, Bob Stein, Gloria Steinem, Sting, Michael Stipe, Oliver Stone, Brian Stonehill, Nadine Strossen, Trudie Styler, William Styron, Edith Tiger, Edward R. Tufte, Eric Utne, Bill Viola, Alice Walker, Cornel West, Marc Weiss, John Edgar Wideman, Garry Wills, Joanne Woodward, and Peter Yarrow.
Why is he still languishing in prison with all this celebrity influence in his favor? Why is Britney Spears still under a conservatorship despite the near-constant outrage?
Posted on 6/24/21 at 4:18 pm to REG861
quote:troll
Oh man you looks like you solved the case. You should probably alert the DA. Maybe they’ll re arrest them!
Posted on 6/24/21 at 4:30 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:Same reason why The Hurricane got out of prison, even though he too probably did it.
why did the prosecution then respond by dealing to get them out of prison?
Media propaganda is powerful shite to an elected official.
It is the same reason why people STILL think the Duke Lacrosse kids raped somebody. . .and also, ironically, why the DA withheld DNA evidence in that case.
The same reason why people think Michael Brown was murdered. Or that Trayvon Martin was stalked and murdered because something something racism.
quote:Because the evidence is not ambiguous or circumstantial in the slightest:
Why is he still languishing in prison with all this celebrity influence in his favor?
quote:
At 3:55 am on December 9, 1981, in Philadelphia, close to the intersection at 13th and Locust streets, Philadelphia Police Department officer Daniel Faulkner conducted a traffic stop on a vehicle belonging to and driven by William Cook, Abu-Jamal's younger brother. Faulkner and Cook became engaged in a physical confrontation.[28] Driving his cab in the vicinity, Abu-Jamal observed the altercation, parked, and ran across the street toward Cook's car.[3] Faulkner was shot in the back and face. He shot Abu-Jamal in the stomach. Faulkner died at the scene from the gunshot to his head.
Arrest and trial
Police arrived and arrested Abu-Jamal, who was found to be wearing a shoulder holster. His revolver, which had five spent cartridges, was beside him. He was taken directly from the scene of the shooting to Thomas Jefferson University Hospital, where he received treatment for his wound.[29] He was next taken to Police Headquarters, where he was charged and held for trial in the first-degree murder of Officer Faulkner.[30]
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The prosecution presented four witnesses to the court about the shootings. Robert Chobert, a cab driver who testified he was parked behind Faulkner, identified Abu-Jamal as the shooter. Cynthia White testified that Abu-Jamal emerged from a nearby parking lot and shot Faulkner. Michael Scanlan, a motorist, testified that from two car lengths away he saw a man matching Abu-Jamal's description run across the street from a parking lot and shoot Faulkner. Albert Magilton testified to seeing Faulkner pull over Cook's car. As Abu-Jamal started to cross the street toward them, Magilton turned away and did not see what happened next.
I mean. . .Mumia clearly murdered a cop by shooting him in the back.
If Mumia weren't a communist, none of the names on that list would be asking for an obviously guilty man to be released.
quote:Is it up for review?
Why is Britney Spears still under a conservatorship despite the near-constant outrage?
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 6/24/21 at 4:52 pm to Roaad
quote:The thing that was up for review with the WM3 was the DNA. If we're saying the DNA was neither here nor there, then what would have compelled the state to let them out?
Is it up for review?
Posted on 6/24/21 at 5:05 pm to troyt37
quote:
If the DNA exonerated them, shout it from the rooftops, even if you cop Alford. Although I can’t imagine why you wouldn’t want to bilk the state for several million, when you have exonerating DNA in your back pocket.
Because the Alford technically negates that possibility. It’s a self serving CYA tactic by the state. That’s literally the entire reason they offered to let them off in exchange for an Alford. So they couldnt turn around and sue. I’m glad I could answer your question!
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 6/24/21 at 5:09 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
The thing that was up for review with the WM3 was the DNA. If we're saying the DNA was neither here nor there, then what would have compelled the state to let them out?
And troll. Philadelphia is a little different than rural Arkansas. This has been explained, and explained again. You insist on being purposely ignorant, and have doubled down on that ignorance.
While letting them cop Alford seems inexplicable to you, wanting to cop Alford, turning your back on millions of dollars, branding yourself a child murderer x3, and proving correct all those celebrities who had successfully branded everyone involved in the case ignorant redneck hicks, bent on putting da debbil in jail, is equally as inexplicable to myself and many others.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 5:10 pm to Big Scrub TX
Big Scrub, you are big stupid.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 5:10 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:Not what I asked, but. . .
The thing that was up for review with the WM3 was the DNA.
quote:public pressure on a circumstantial case.
If we're saying the DNA was neither here nor there, then what would have compelled the state to let them out?
Posted on 6/24/21 at 5:14 pm to REG861
quote:
Because the Alford technically negates that possibility. It’s a self serving CYA tactic by the state. That’s literally the entire reason they offered to let them off in exchange for an Alford. So they couldnt turn around and sue. I’m glad I could answer your question!
And yet you don’t hire a writer and publish a blockbuster book, revealing the exonerating DNA evidence, getting rich, and proving what you have been saying all along. Right. Is it somehow more honorable to be a free convicted murderer, than a rich, free convicted murderer?
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 5:15 pm
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