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re: West Memphis three
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:30 pm to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:30 pm to Big Scrub TX
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STILL IN PRISON. It would be different if they had already been sprung but the DA was acting like he was going to try again.
To be very clear - Alford is a tool of charlatan DAs. And we have one in this case.
Let me guess ... you have evidence to back up this claim?
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Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:40 pm to Baylor Kyle
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If I had spent 20 years in prison, and I had two choices:
1. Admit I'm guilty and spend the rest of my life as a convicted child murderer x3
2. Spend one more year and clear my name (because obviously there is zero evidence against me and I have man hole marks to exonerate me)
I'm spending one more year.
Don’t forget:
3. Suing the living dogshit out of the state, and spending the rest of your days wealthy.
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:54 pm to jdd48
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How is that not leading him into statements? He might as well have had a fishing pole with a big shiny hook in the interview room.
THE POLICE CONFESSION MEANS ZIP
1) Miskelly was at the police station that day because his father had been talking to them about what his son had been saying. His FATHER sure as hell didnt coerce him. Dad still says he didnt kill anyone, and was taking his son to get the reward and rat out Echols and Baldwin
2) The very fact that Misskelly confessed to Buddy Lucas 4 hours before any other human being knew they were dead, IS CASE CLOSED. Miskelly isnt clairvoyant. The only way he knew those boys (that he also identified by name) were dead the next morning is, that he was there and witnessed it
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:02 pm to JimNat
A triumph of science and modernity over superstition and medieval backwardness. Thank god justice prevailed in the end. No matter what happens in life it’s always nice to know some deranged hicks out there still go to bed at night thinking they did it and got away with it.
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:09 pm to JimNat
I have no doubts that the West Memphis 3 killed those kids
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:18 pm to Roaad
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I have no doubts that the West Memphis 3 killed those kids
I love it. Tell us how mad you are they got off 'cause Pearl Jam and the Hollywood elite pulled a fast one on the good, God-fearin' people of west memphis.
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:19 pm to JimNat
If you want some more crime controversy reading, do some research on 'The boys on the tracks' in Arkansas. Also, read some on Barry Seal and Mena.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:26 pm to troyt37
All three live in fear that one day they could be whacked.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:27 pm to REG861
quote:Mad? meh.
Tell us how mad you are they got off 'cause Pearl Jam and the Hollywood elite pulled a fast one on the good, God-fearin' people of west memphis.
As far as the "how"? That's easy, mass propaganda worked. Just like it worked for the "Hurricane". Could end up working for the Tiger King, eventually.
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:33 pm to dchog
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All three live in fear that one day they could be whacked.
Nah they live in actual civilization now, I don’t think they have to fear for poor methed out trailer trash any longer.
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:40 pm to Roaad
Tiger King burned too many bridges and pissed off all kinds of people.
Not the kind of situation to be in when a person needs help in prison.
Not the kind of situation to be in when a person needs help in prison.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:40 pm to Baylor Kyle
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If I had spent 20 years in prison, and I had two choices:
that's REAL easy to say when you're not in prison
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1. Admit I'm guilty
they did not admit to the facts but pled guilty under an Alford plea. very important distinction
are they convicted? yes
are they or the state admitting they actually committed any crimes? no
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2. Spend one more year and clear my name (because obviously there is zero evidence against me and I have man hole marks to exonerate me)
it likely would take a lot longer than a year, and there is no guarantee they get out. they already were screwed over by a stupid jury once. why leave the rest of their lives up to chance? that's not a rational decision
i've had plenty of clients i truly believed were not guilty take plea offers b/c it was the rational move
you can sit on your emotional thinking high horse, but we're living in a world of rationality over here
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:54 pm to REG861
Well the so called trailer trash can still hire someone to do the dirty deeds.
No matter where they live here in America, the possibility of someone knocking on the door and killing them is high. It might not be that way but that is what fear will do to a person.
No matter where they live here in America, the possibility of someone knocking on the door and killing them is high. It might not be that way but that is what fear will do to a person.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:00 pm to Baylor Kyle
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Let me guess ... you have evidence to back up this claim?
As you had never even heard of an Alford plea before you embarrassed yourself in this thread you should keep your day job at the plant instead of playing lawyer.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:36 pm to Baylor Kyle
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Do you have any evidence that supports the claim that "the investigation was shite?"
Well this is the original thinking.
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Police suspected the murders of Michael Moore, Christopher Byers and Steve Branch, all second-graders, were the work of a satanic cult.
Are 3 teens really a satanic cult? I guess they could be.
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Misskelley had a measured IQ of 72, and there were reasons to doubt his account. Misskelley asserted that the murders had occurred the morning of May 5, 1993, but neighbors saw the boys alive that evening. In his confession, Misskelley said the victims had skipped school that day, when in fact they had not.
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And he said the victims’ hands had been bound with brown rope, when their hands and feet had been hogtied with their black and white shoelaces. There was also no indication any of the victims had been raped.
You can tell me I'm wrong, I'm not upset. But this kid had holes in his confession.
Again I have reasonable doubt. You don't.
And some more...
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Further, a former Ohio police officer named Dale Griffis, who held what the defense characterized as a mail-order Ph.D. degree from an unaccredited university, was permitted to testify as a prosecution expert
And why?
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In 2010 the state Supreme Court ordered a state trial judge to determine whether the DNA evidence invalidated their convictions.
But before that hearing ever took place, the prosecutors offered all three defendants a deal: In return for not contesting their guilt, they would be immediately released. They took the deal, enabling them to walk free on Aug. 19, 2011, more than 18 years after their arrest.
Another thing that's strange about the alibis, which the boys were lying about, or at least Echols was. Is Hobbs alibi. He doesn't have a good one either and the people for the wm3 being guilty just chalk it up to hazy memory.
Kind of convenient.
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:12 pm to dgnx6
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Again I have reasonable doubt. You don't.
Based upon a confession that had holes in it? A confession from a kid who was distraught and partially confessed to a relative, naming the kids before anyone knew they were dead? So you blame the parts of the confession that rang true on his cognitive disabilities, but think the holes in his confession can’t be because of those same cognitive disabilities, and so therefore constitute reasonable doubt?
The fact that much of what he told them wasn’t known by the police or anyone else at the time he confessed doesn’t tell you that he was absolutely part of the crime? Are there any confessions ever, that are 100% factual in every detail? And if there isn’t, does that constitute reasonable doubt in every single case?
How many times have you seen cases where one or more defendant tells essentially the same story, but puts the other party or parties as the principle actor? In those cases, no conviction is possible for you, because although both confessed to the crime, both have holes in their confession, putting the target on the other. So they both walk, right?
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:22 pm to troyt37
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How many times have you seen cases where one or more defendant tells essentially the same story, but puts the other party or parties as the principle actor? In those cases, no conviction is possible for you, because although both confessed to the crime, both have holes in their confession, putting the target on the other. So they both walk, right?
Everyone has holes in their stories involved in this.
Seems weird misskelly would confess then actually try to get out of it by saying he was at a wrestling match or some shite. Although his lawyers could have coerced him, like the cops could have.
Even think about the whitnesess that said Echols was with his Gf walking around at the scene of the crime the night before. Then that changing to maybe he was with Baldwin and not his GF.
A lot of things with this case are fudged but I'm supposed to believe all involved did a top top job.
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:13 am to dgnx6
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A lot of things with this case are fudged but I'm supposed to believe all involved did a top top job.
What? I’ve never said anything like that. I don’t believe very many cases, especially cases that envelope and overwhelm those who investigate and prosecute them, are ever perfect. But the fact remains that even with virtually unlimited funds, and incredible scrutiny, nobody has been able to produce one stitch of evidence that proves definitively that this didn’t happen more or less the way that it was prosecuted.
People can harp on the supposed DNA that ultimately got them out of prison, with the help of the Hollywood circus, but do you really think that if there were DNA that exonerates one or all of the boys, it wouldn’t have been shouted from the rooftops. It would validate all the accusation, innuendo, and character destruction laid down by the big money lawyers and entertainers. Nobody is going to make me believe it exists, but was just sat on.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 5:51 am to JimNat
I am not a lawyer nor am I convinced one way or another who did this. Let me ask you guys something. Why would the step father murder all three at one time? Could he actually do this? If he disliked his step son why not kill him on a fishing trip and just say he fell out of boat and drowned.
I to this day cannot understand why the producers of the documentary’s so involved in the film so early, they were at the trials.
I to this day cannot understand why the producers of the documentary’s so involved in the film so early, they were at the trials.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 6:20 am to JimNat
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Why would the step father murder all three at one time?
The theory is (I do not necessarily endorse this, but this is the theory promoted by some, including the documentary filmmakers) - he went too far in punishing his stepson, snapped, then decided he needed to kill all three to cover it up.
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Could he actually do this?
You're questioning whether a grown man could kill 3 8-year olds? Seriously?
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