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re: What bad things do you people think would happen if we nuked North Korea off the map?
Posted on 8/9/17 at 9:16 pm to GermantownTiger
Posted on 8/9/17 at 9:16 pm to GermantownTiger
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I'll wait...
Seoul, one of the world's wealthiest, most advanced, and cosmopolitan cities, home to over 25 million people, is wiped from the face of the earth.
China and Russia take a nuclear strike on North Korea as a nuclear strike on them.
Russia and China launch nukes at Europe, North America, Japan, Taiwan, and South Korea. Nearly 1 billion people die within a week.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 9:29 pm to kingbob
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Russia and China launch nukes at Europe, North America, Japan, Taiwan, and South Korea. Nearly 1 billion people die within a week.
That's a bit hyperbolic. No fricking way would China launch a nuke at the #1 trade partner.
Your thought process if we nuke "the biggest pain in their arse" North Korea, that Xi Jinping's first reaction would be, "It was a good run, but now due to the fact that Prince Piggy was nuked it's now time to take out all of humanity with him"? Unless something drastically changes, I can't see any situation in the foreseeable future where we or China threaten each other with nukes. It's an impossibility.
Russia, possibility, but still slim. China is in our pocket now and we are in theirs. It's as absurd that we nuke them as they nuke us. No way we would ever nuke China with the circumstances the way they are in any conceivable situation in the immediate future.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 9:31 pm to GermantownTiger
A lot of fallout on S Korea and Eastern China.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:02 pm to Clark14
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nukes should never be an option.nk can be wiped out with conventional weapons...
Why the need to wipe them out, the goal is to destroy the nuclear capability, and if tactical nukes make that possible they are legitimate weapons. Tactical nukes causing less collateral damage than conventional weapons is rational. Tactical nukes if required to stop their nuclear response are rational.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:21 pm to GermantownTiger
You mean kill millions of innocent people.
That is a bad idea I think.
That is a bad idea I think.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:22 pm to GermantownTiger
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What bad things do you people think would happen if we nuked North Korea off the map?
Lack of Black Friday deals on Samsung products in 2017.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 12:34 am to OMLandshark
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That's a bit hyperbolic. No fricking way would China launch a nuke at the #1 trade partner.
Your thought process if we nuke "the biggest pain in their arse" North Korea, that Xi Jinping's first reaction would be, "It was a good run, but now due to the fact that Prince Piggy was nuked it's now time to take out all of humanity with him"? Unless something drastically changes, I can't see any situation in the foreseeable future where we or China threaten each other with nukes. It's an impossibility.
Russia, possibility, but still slim. China is in our pocket now and we are in theirs. It's as absurd that we nuke them as they nuke us. No way we would ever nuke China with the circumstances the way they are in any conceivable situation in the immediate future.
You nuke North Korea off the map, killing 25 million people, most innocent, and you immediately change the landscape of deterrence forever.
When the signal becomes that the hegemonic power will reach for a unilateral response with nukes at the risk of enormous harm to allies before other options have been exhausted. If you think that doesn't up the probability of future calamity and open up long-term harm for America, not just militarily but economically, I don't think you have truly thought it out.
Especially the likely scenario where countries that relied on the good faith of our judgement and sworn protection as hegemon could end up with tens, hundreds, or even millions of casualties like in SK or Japan if we attempted to strike NK and they retaliated. Or even just collateral damage given Seoul is 35 miles from North Korea and America would have to strike the de-militarized zone where it is believed NK could launch up to 500,000 rounds of artillery onto Seoul within an hour. Likely have on hand some of the stock piles of chemical and biological weapons NK has built.
Lets also be rational about this. NK is not the caricature partisans and armchair hawks make them out to be. They are not truly building an arsenal so they can lob a singular nuke at Oregon and then get wiped off the map as even their reluctant allies(China) sign off and aid in their demise. They are attempting to acquire long-range nuclear capabilities because in the regime's mind it is the next logical step on the path to maximizing deterrence and growing their might. But the Soviet Union showed that over the long-run, the greatest threat will likely be internal, and anyone that has read up on NK outside of Trump tweets should be aware the NK regime is more like the mid to late-stage USSR then some emerging and stable super power.
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 12:38 am
Posted on 8/10/17 at 12:36 am to GermantownTiger
Eh I don't think anything bad would happen to the US.
But I don't want a country with millions of people to get wiped out either.
But I don't want a country with millions of people to get wiped out either.
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