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re: What Would a Grand Bargain Look Like?
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:07 pm to roadGator
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:07 pm to roadGator
quote:
He keeps ignoring the freedom trade proposal you make.
Lay that out for me. Specifically, what's your ask? Freedom is a pretty broad term. That's like negotiating a business deal and saying "I want a lot of money."
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Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:11 pm to JudgeHolden
quote:It really isn't. Freedom, when not trying to be redefined is a relatively transparent term.
Lay that out for me. Specifically, what's your ask? Freedom is a pretty broad term.
But, hey. For posterity. I'll take the corollaries to all of these and any similar freedoms.
Is the left okay with it when a female business owner prioritizes hiring only females 2 top management roles?
How about when a black owner does it with blacks?
Is the left okay with it if a gay person doesn't want to do business with Ann Coulter?
Is the left okay with it if a Jew doesn't want to do business with David Duke?
On an even simpler note is the left okay with it if a black person looking for a roommate seeks out other black people to be his roommate?
I could go on for probably hundreds of these and I suspect the answer and every single case is yes
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:11 pm to JudgeHolden
He's posted it twice. Three times isn't going to make a difference.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:12 pm to roadGator
quote:
He's posted it twice
Yep. You are right.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:13 pm to roadGator
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He's posted it twice.
3 times now
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:14 pm to ShortyRob
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But, hey. For posterity. I'll take the corollaries to all of these and any similar freedoms. Is the left okay with it when a female business owner prioritizes hiring only females 2 top management roles? How about when a black owner does it with blacks? Is the left okay with it if a gay person doesn't want to do business with Ann Coulter? Is the left okay with it if a Jew doesn't want to do business with David Duke? On an even simpler note is the left okay with it if a black person looking for a roommate seeks out other black people to be his roommate? I could go on for probably hundreds of these and I suspect the answer and every single case is yes
Say we say no to every single one of those. Or say we say yes to the converse of each. Then?
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:14 pm to ShortyRob
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3 times now
Yeah. I got that.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:15 pm to roadGator
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He's posted it twice. Three times isn't going to make a difference.
The problem the left has is they're HUGE fans of freedom. THEIRs.
They know what the word means. They constantly ask for it. Hell, they go further than asking for it. They ask for YOU to subsidize it.
But you want it? Yeah. frick you.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:15 pm to ShortyRob
And his answer was still a non-answer. 
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:16 pm to JudgeHolden
quote:
Say we say no to every single one of those. Or say we say yes to the converse of each. Then?
Then we're at break even on that. We should be good.
You already got it. It ain't like I'm getting something you don't already have.
But like I said earlier and now you're showing.
The left will steal your candy, then ask you what you'll give up to get half your candy back..........and call that shite "compromise!!!"
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:17 pm to roadGator
quote:
And his answer was still a non-answer.
Yeah. If you're fricking me with a baseball bat, it's not "compromise" for me to say, "hey, how bout we start by you not fricking me with a baseball bat"?
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:18 pm to roadGator
quote:
roadGator
You're not much fun at parties, are you?
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:19 pm to JudgeHolden
You wanna try me on the dance floor?
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:20 pm to VOR
quote:
Scalia has already said in one of his opinions that some regulations for guns are permitted by the Comstitution,
Routinely misread though.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:21 pm to roadGator
quote:
You wanna try me on the dance floor?
There is no bargain I can think of that would make that happen!
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:23 pm to JudgeHolden
I will also point out that the left is really good at renaming bad shite so that it doesn't sound bad.
We're talking about a group that passed legislation banning discrimination based on race............THEN.......demanded discrimination based on race in basically every public sphere........THEN, asked for discrimination based on sex.........and are very close to asking for it based on sexual orientation.
Hell. They've literally argued themselves in to saying NOT practicing this discrimination is..........wait for it........discrimination!
And, now, the left wants to tell me that in order for them to STOP that shite.......I need to give them something in trade?
Yeah. Nope.
We're talking about a group that passed legislation banning discrimination based on race............THEN.......demanded discrimination based on race in basically every public sphere........THEN, asked for discrimination based on sex.........and are very close to asking for it based on sexual orientation.
Hell. They've literally argued themselves in to saying NOT practicing this discrimination is..........wait for it........discrimination!
And, now, the left wants to tell me that in order for them to STOP that shite.......I need to give them something in trade?
Yeah. Nope.
This post was edited on 5/3/18 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:26 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
We're talking about a group that passed legislation banning discrimination based on race............THEN.......demanded discrimination based on race in basically every public sphere........THEN, asked for discrimination based on sex.........and are very close to asking for it based on sexual orientation.
I get it. You perceive that interest groups (gays, racial minorities, etc.) have claimed broad rights that intrude on your own, and then feel put upon (or use a derisive name for you) if you complain. A lot of that is politically driven. And I get that it pisses you off. I don't know how you fix a lot of that, or how you find a proper balance among "rights."
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:27 pm to JudgeHolden
quote:I don't "perceive" jack shite. If you can't grant that this is flat out unassailable fact you're out of your mind. You may support it, but let's not lie about it.
You perceive that interest groups
quote:You fix it by not doing it. This ain't complicated shite.
A lot of that is politically driven. And I get that it pisses you off. I don't know how you fix a lot of that
quote:There's that lefty word that is code for "frick your freedom".
or how you find a proper balance among "rights."
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:29 pm to ShortyRob
I would like to add again for absolute clarity.
The left is NOT against discrimination. The left wholeheartedly SUPPORTS the individual right to discriminate.
The left has just decided that only THEIR SELECTED folks can do it.
So, I'm not even asking for something you guys don't already support. You SUPPORT it. I'm merely asking that you support it for me too.
The left is NOT against discrimination. The left wholeheartedly SUPPORTS the individual right to discriminate.
The left has just decided that only THEIR SELECTED folks can do it.
So, I'm not even asking for something you guys don't already support. You SUPPORT it. I'm merely asking that you support it for me too.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:32 pm to ShortyRob
And the left is not against personal freedom. The left wholeheartedly supports personal freedom. Again, ONLY for their selected people.
Literally all I'm asking is that the left support for everyone that which they support for themselves.
Literally all I'm asking is that the left support for everyone that which they support for themselves.
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