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re: When did America become divided?
Posted on 9/28/18 at 7:55 am to shoelessjoe
Posted on 9/28/18 at 7:55 am to shoelessjoe
When the Saul Alinsky disciple pushed his religion of big government on us for 8 years.
How could Rules like these lead to anything but division?
--"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."
--"If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside"
How could Rules like these lead to anything but division?
--"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."
--"If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside"
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Posted on 9/28/18 at 7:56 am to dovehunter
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I think it depends on your age. When Kennedy was assisinated this act created a leadership vacuum and Lyndon Johnson became president. He mishandled the racial crisis and trying to buy votes by starting the great society at the cost of quality public education and the act of taking form the middle class and giving to the poor.
I think LBJ gets too much flak on here. Yes he admittedly made bad calls but he stuck in a no win situation.
Nobody wants to admit it today but giving Blacks civil rights in 1964 was going to split the political spectrum regardless. And the version he ultimately signed was a gimped version.
How else could he have corrected the civil rights situation AND keep his supporters somewhat content. Nobody wants to address that. The addition of "no father' clause was bad. But that could have been fixed by any GOP administration post Johnson (I wonder why no GOP Presidents ever tried to fix it ?)
And how did he destroy public education. The whites that wanted segregation made their own academies.
Posted on 9/28/18 at 7:56 am to shoelessjoe
quote:1789
When did America become divided?
Posted on 9/28/18 at 7:57 am to PEPE
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We are one major economic collapse away from one.
Nobody would ever support a civil war of any kind while things are economically good. There's too much to risk, no matter how divided people are.
However if some extended major economic crisis were to hit, the divisions that exist are sufficient to cause people to rise up.
So we're closer than you think. But as I said, as long as the economy is in good shape, nothing will happen
This.
The oxygen and combustible material is there it's just waiting on the match. The economy is that match. Thankfully, it's doing well and we have no reason to believe it won't continue. So hopefully, no one takes a shite and strikes a match
This post was edited on 9/28/18 at 7:58 am
Posted on 9/28/18 at 7:59 am to shoelessjoe
I think it got really bad when W beat Gore with the whole Florida recount debacle.
24 hour news grew exponentially after that, as did the divide.
24 hour news grew exponentially after that, as did the divide.
Posted on 9/28/18 at 8:00 am to shoelessjoe
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I hear it all the the time the America is very divided. On the verge of a civil war. I agree with this but when would y’all say this happened? What was the moment that is cemented in your mind that you agreed that it is divided?
IMO it all started when the democrats persuaded Bush I to raise taxes then beat him over the head with it in 1992 presidential election. Then Bob Dole and the Reps wanted their pound of flesh from Clinton. Exacerbated with the election of Bush II over Gore. Shite went really down hill under Obama, the most partisan president in our history.
Posted on 9/28/18 at 8:00 am to shoelessjoe
Since 1865 or thereabouts.
Posted on 9/28/18 at 8:01 am to shoelessjoe
Bush Gore
Posted on 9/28/18 at 8:03 am to Draconian Sanctions
Most of the intelligence community would probably disagree with you.
Russians have always tried to take down America and they mostly use subversive actions that try to rot us from within. Former top officials and KGB agents have gone on the record stating as much.
They play the culture war because they know they can't compete with the United States economically or militarily. It's the only card they have to play.
Russians have always tried to take down America and they mostly use subversive actions that try to rot us from within. Former top officials and KGB agents have gone on the record stating as much.
They play the culture war because they know they can't compete with the United States economically or militarily. It's the only card they have to play.
This post was edited on 9/28/18 at 8:04 am
Posted on 9/28/18 at 8:07 am to nola000
It's like the little brother who always wants to beat the big brother so he wants to play an easy game of chance like Candyland when everybody else wants to play Monopoly like an adult.
Posted on 9/28/18 at 8:21 am to nola000
O and the spineless ER in congress that let him run the country into the ground for 8 years got us where were at today. Where was the fire from guys like Graham over that stretch?
Posted on 9/28/18 at 8:26 am to nola000
I think that it has always been divided. Social media has given many more people a platform to express their views, and people are motivate more to express their view when they disagree which will be argumentative in tone. Add to that the activist who purposefully add fake outrage to push their agenda and the news organization becoming more opinion based and sensationalize to get ratings. All of this creates a world that appears more divided.
Posted on 9/28/18 at 8:30 am to shoelessjoe
There has ALWAYS been a political divide. But I think the nation was completely blindsided when Obama, rather than being a post-racial president, immediately started playing the race and victim cards left and right. He had an opportunity to change this country forever for the better in terms of race relations. Instead, he went the Low Road.
Posted on 9/28/18 at 8:31 am to shoelessjoe
I say it started during the second term of Obama...when he started getting involved with local issues like Trayvon Martin's killing. Or perhaps earlier, when he criticized the cop who hassled Professor Gates in what appeared to be a break in. He regularly blasted the men and women in blue and appeared to take the side of the opposing force.
But the real split came after Trump pulled the upset for the presidency...Democrats and left-wingers couldn't accept defeat and are hellbent on destroying anything that isn't on their agenda. Why couldn't they simply pull for Trump to succeed like most Republicans did for Obama?
But the real split came after Trump pulled the upset for the presidency...Democrats and left-wingers couldn't accept defeat and are hellbent on destroying anything that isn't on their agenda. Why couldn't they simply pull for Trump to succeed like most Republicans did for Obama?
Posted on 9/28/18 at 8:40 am to shoelessjoe
The media portrays that we are on the verge of a civil war, but in reality, we are nowhere close.
The vast majority of Americans are just trying to get by with their lives. Kids, church, sports, etc.
I'm MAGA and I am constantly around libs, minorities, lefties here in Chicago - guess what? 95% of people are nice, polite, and just getting along with their lives.
The vast majority of Americans are just trying to get by with their lives. Kids, church, sports, etc.
I'm MAGA and I am constantly around libs, minorities, lefties here in Chicago - guess what? 95% of people are nice, polite, and just getting along with their lives.
Posted on 9/28/18 at 8:45 am to shoelessjoe
Like, 1776. Dude, Americans love to fight. It’s in our blood. When there isn’t a common foreign enemy, we turn on each other. Even then, there’s division.
I’m not worried about it, brcause no matter how much I demonize the left, I will take no part in going to their homes and killing their families. I think most people feel the same. People who want a war are either lunatics or have no idea what that means. It won’t be two armies meeting on an open field and duking it out. It would bloody, disgusting, tragic and a crime against humanity. It would be fought on your front lawn, not far away.
I’m not worried about it, brcause no matter how much I demonize the left, I will take no part in going to their homes and killing their families. I think most people feel the same. People who want a war are either lunatics or have no idea what that means. It won’t be two armies meeting on an open field and duking it out. It would bloody, disgusting, tragic and a crime against humanity. It would be fought on your front lawn, not far away.
Posted on 9/28/18 at 8:46 am to shoelessjoe
In the past 24 hours every liberal friend has vowed to unfollow people on Facebook. When did people have to agree on everything to be friends? When did America become so violently angry over differing opinions? When Obama was president liberals mocked conservatives for their racist hatred of him. Now Trump is president and anyone who may have voted for him is a horrible person. Maybe we should just quit nominating shitty people to be president?
This post was edited on 9/28/18 at 8:47 am
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