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Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:31 pm to
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:31 pm to
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Russia has the moral courage to take a stand against the 27/7 Homosexual propaganda machine. And also has the morale courage to speak out against America's murderous foreign policy machine.


Because the Russians don't have a murderous foreign policy machine ...they just kill their own citizens en masse instead! Much more convenient.*













*Note: They actually do have a murderous foreign policy machine.
This post was edited on 2/10/14 at 7:34 pm
Posted by NoNameNeeded
Lee's Summit, MO
Member since Dec 2013
1254 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:35 pm to
The leftwing Western media will disrespect and hate everything and everyone who stands up for a moral society, and that is what Putin's administration is doing, simply looking out for the health and wellbeing of his nation's citizens.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78957 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:42 pm to
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The leftwing Western media will disrespect and hate everything and everyone who stands up for a moral society, and that is what Putin's administration is doing, simply looking out for the health and wellbeing of his nation's citizens.


Except the ones he is allowing to be beaten to a pulp. And the ones he throwing in jail for protesting.

I guess you would rather have a state informed morality than freedom of protest.
Posted by NoNameNeeded
Lee's Summit, MO
Member since Dec 2013
1254 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:47 pm to
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Except the ones he is allowing to be beaten to a pulp. And the ones he throwing in jail for protesting. I guess you would rather have a state informed morality than freedom of protest.


Yes, I actually would. Also, most of the rejects in Russia are sent out of the country instead of "beaten to a pulp" as you say. Russia needs to be a theocratic state that it was meant to be long before the Jewish Bolsheviks murdered the Tsars and enslaved the Orthodox Christian majority.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:47 pm to
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stands up for a moral society, and that is what Putin's administration is doing


So being anti-gay is the beginning and end of morality. I think the only reason you mouth breathers seal clap for anti sharia laws are because it's Muslim because you're moral view neatly matches.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:48 pm to
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Yes, I actually would. Also, most of the rejects in Russia are sent out of the country instead of "beaten to a pulp" as you say. Russia needs to be a theocratic state that it was meant to be long before the Jewish Bolsheviks murdered the Tsars and enslaved the Orthodox Christian majority.


Wow. Dumb. Which is actually a little scary.

And you, actually hate America and it's ideals expressed in the bill of rights .
This post was edited on 2/10/14 at 7:56 pm
Posted by NoNameNeeded
Lee's Summit, MO
Member since Dec 2013
1254 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:54 pm to
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So being anti-gay is the beginning and end of morality. I think the only reason you mouth breathers seal clap for anti sharia laws are because it's Muslim because you're moral view neatly matches.


The overwhelming global majority of religious and non-religious people on the planet "neatly match" this stance.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78957 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:54 pm to
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Yes, I actually would.


Pretty un-American. Why do you hate the freedoms Americans have been dying for for centuries to deliver to you?

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lso, most of the rejects in Russia are sent out of the country instead of "beaten to a pulp" as you say.


Statistically not true, but forced exile seems great too. I guess you stop being Russian if you don't like dictators.

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Russia needs to be a theocratic state that it was meant to be long before the Jewish Bolsheviks murdered the Tsars and enslaved the Orthodox Christian majority.


Weird, i could have sworn a majority of the Red Army wasn't jewish, nor that Stalin fellow. But hey can you blame the jews for wanting the Tzar gone after decades of the Tzar allowing Progroms?

But Russia is there, they need men like you. People willing to be ruled.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38025 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:55 pm to
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Yes, I actually would. Also, most of the rejects in Russia are sent out of the country instead of "beaten to a pulp" as you say. Russia needs to be a theocratic state that it was meant to be long before the Jewish Bolsheviks murdered the Tsars and enslaved the Orthodox Christian majority.


Your country sucks dude, sorry. There's a reason the Russian monarchy wished they were French.
Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:56 pm to
Not a fan of Putin, but you do raise a valid point about the general pass given by US elites toward China vs Russia.

The biggest issue is that for the most part China has integrated into the global economy, so from the point of view of American banks and big business certain human rights issues on the part of the Chinese can and should be buried. Russia has tried to generally remain outside the global system, they have nationalized industry at the expense of Western oil companies, not allowed western investment and pursued almost mercantilist trade policies.

The other issue is that Western foreign policy elites and journalists who specialize in Russia tend to come from ethnicities who are hostile to Russians. You don't see this with China.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38025 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:57 pm to
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The biggest issue is that for the most part China has integrated into the global economy, so from the point of view of American banks and big business certain human rights issues on the part of the Chinese can and should be buried. Russia has tried to generally remain outside the global system, they have nationalized industry at the expense of Western oil companies, not allowed western investment and pursued almost mercantilist trade policies


Good post.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:57 pm to
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The overwhelming global majority of religious and non-religious people on the planet "neatly match" this stance.


So that's a yes on sharia for you. And most of the world is an oppressive shithole. Why do you hate the very principles of our founders?
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38025 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 8:01 pm to
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Weird, i could have sworn a majority of the Red Army wasn't jewish, nor that Stalin fellow. But hey can you blame the jews for wanting the Tzar gone after decades of the Tzar allowing Progroms?



You're forgetting that rabid anti-Semitism, in addition to alcoholism and perpetual unemployment, is a precondition for being a chauvinist Russian orthodox. This loser is clearly trying to fit in.
Posted by NoNameNeeded
Lee's Summit, MO
Member since Dec 2013
1254 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 8:01 pm to
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So that's a yes on sharia for you. And most of the world is an oppressive shithole. Why do you hate the very principles of our founders?


The Founders never intended for those principles to be applied to incompatible peoples and beliefs that are hostile to the Founders' stock.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78957 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 8:03 pm to
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The Founders never intended for those principles to be applied to incompatible peoples and beliefs that are hostile to the Founders' stock.


So what about the whole first amendment that they wrote.

Also you are ignorant if you think the founders were all of the same beliefs
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 8:04 pm to
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The Founders never intended for those principles to be applied to incompatible peoples and beliefs that are hostile to the Founders' stock.


So you are for unequal application of laws and oppression - you are against free speech and association. Our founders never agreed with miscreants like you. You have no basis for your comments. Just join westoboro and get it over with.
Posted by NoNameNeeded
Lee's Summit, MO
Member since Dec 2013
1254 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 8:05 pm to
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Also you are ignorant if you think the founders were all of the same beliefs


Well, Haym Solomon may not have been.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78957 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 8:11 pm to
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Well, Haym Solomon may not have been.


They were lutheran, Presbyterians, catholics, episcopalians, and deists.

You probably think of them all as white protestants, and they mostly were, but the differences between their faiths were much starker back then. In Europe they were still killing each other.

Freedom of religion meant freedom of religion.
Posted by NoNameNeeded
Lee's Summit, MO
Member since Dec 2013
1254 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:02 pm to
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They were lutheran, Presbyterians, catholics, episcopalians, and deists. You probably think of them all as white protestants, and they mostly were, but the differences between their faiths were much starker back then. In Europe they were still killing each other. Freedom of religion meant freedom of religion.


Yeah, the whole Protestant-Catholic-Orthodox differences aren't that big a deal today.

Either way, I have freedom of speech and a right to an opinion, and if I happen to find certain peoples and religions distasteful due to their behaviors and past atrocities and actions, there isn't anything that can be done to prevent me from doing so.

Also, I'm approaching 80 years of age and could care less at this point if my opinions are not "up with the times" regarding certain issues and policies.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78957 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:08 pm to
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Yeah, the whole Protestant-Catholic-Orthodox differences aren't that big a deal today.


Not when they wrote it.

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Either way, I have freedom of speech and a right to an opinion, and if I happen to find certain peoples and religions distasteful due to their behaviors and past atrocities and actions, there isn't anything that can be done to prevent me from doing so.


I support you freedom of speech. I also think you are stupid incredible ignorant. Luckily my freedom of speech allows me to tell you that.
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Also, I'm approaching 80 years of age and could care less at this point if my opinions are not "up with the times" regarding certain issues and policies.


Well considering you opinions are complete misrepresentations of history, and willful ignorance of facts, i wouldn't say they aren't "up with the times" as much as "stupid as shite"

Congrats on living almost 80 years though.
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