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re: Wikileaks schools NPR, beats NPR like a rented mule
Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:58 am to goatmilker
Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:58 am to goatmilker
quote:navy is just pissed that corrupt leftist ideology can no longer hide.
goatmilker
And he's pissed that no one believes the lying bull shite the intelligence community has been trying to pass off in terms of individual liberty
Basically. His two religions are being damaged
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Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:58 am to goatmilker
quote:
Never a thought given that the west is more free and thus more hackable than the east.
This
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:00 am to goatmilker
quote:I also "say" that they are in receipt of documents embarrassing to the Kremlin and choose to withhold them, according to an ex-Wikileaks employee. Russia has dissidents and cyber vulnerabilities just like we do. And our intelligence is no more "free" or freely available than anyone else's. We're not talking about information in the open marketplace of ideas, academia, the press, or even business.
You say the vast majority is leaking from the west and not the east and use this as proof that the east is behind it.
Never a thought given that the west is more free and thus more hackable than the east.
Analysis :off:
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:02 am to Navytiger74
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I also "say" that they are in receipt of documents embarrassing to the Kremlin and choose to withhold them, according to an ex-Wikileaks employee. Russia has dissidents and cyber vulnerabilities just like we do. And our intelligence is no more "free" or freely available than anyone else's. We're not talking about information in the open marketplace of ideas, academia, the press, or even business.
But the USA is just too moral to do back to Russia what Russia has done to them?
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:04 am to Navytiger74
quote:
I also "say" that they are in receipt of documents embarrassing to the Kremlin and choose to withhold them, according to an ex-Wikileaks employee. Russia has dissidents and cyber vulnerabilities just like we do. And our intelligence is no more "free" or freely available than anyone else's. We're not talking about information in the open marketplace of ideas, academia, the press, or even business.
Irrelevant
If I find out who all the rapists in my city are because all the murderers leaked the info, the source will not change my view of the rapists.
If potential rapists want to solve the problem, they have it entirely within their power.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:04 am to Navytiger74
Let's say you are right about that. He may just need to maintain a "safe harbor" for himself rather than having absolutely everyone on earth trying to kill him. It worked for Swowden.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:04 am to Navytiger74
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according to an ex-Wikileaks employee.
Well then. Thats that.
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And our intelligence is no more "free" or freely available than anyone else's
So we in the west hear about and have as many leaks in our govt departments and military as Russia does? I missed the news.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:04 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:Why are you talking to me about this? What does it have to do with anything I'm alleging. If you want to go bitch at someone "on the left" who used to like Assange, go do that.
I'm just pointing out that the same people crying about Russia today were laughing through their teeth at the idea of Russia being a super threat just a few years ago. This 180 eerily coincides with a rash of political losses and near losses globally for their ideological bedfellows. I don't know what assange's motives are, but it's worth pointing out that no one thought he was Putin's puppet until it became politically convenient to do so. Assange was once the left's guilty pleasure.
quote:Such as? Let's hear your idea of a preposterous scenario, Vacherie.
You would have to accept some pretty preposterous scenarios (none of them make Obama look good, btw) to embrace the Russia narrative to the extent you've embraced it.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:06 am to Navytiger74
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What do you do for a living?
I don't wait for the fed to send me a paycheck, so that's a plus.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:06 am to goatmilker
I also really don't give a rats frick if Russia is leaking because i don't live in Russia.
Here's a thought liberals.
Stop doing nasty shite.
Problem solved
Here's a thought liberals.
Stop doing nasty shite.
Problem solved
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:07 am to ShortyRob
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If I find out who all the rapists in my city are because all the murderers leaked the info, the source will not change my view of the rapists.
I'd say it's fricked if you ignore or defend the murderers because you like what they bring to the table and the "left" wants to do something about all the murderers.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:08 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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and the "left" wants to do something about all the murderers
ROFLMAO
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:09 am to Stingray
quote:I don't even know what you think you're trying to say here. I'm not talking about the morality of state-sponsored cyber intrusions, espionage, sabotage, etc. I'm pointing out that wikileaks is a willing mass distributor of information detrimental to the interests of the U.S. and her allies, however they come by it, but apparently doesn't take the same position on Russia.
But the USA is just too moral to do back to Russia what Russia has done to them?
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:11 am to Strannix
quote:Do you mean the treasury? DFAS? The fed doesn't pay our salaries.
I don't wait for the fed to send me a paycheck, so that's a plus.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:11 am to Navytiger74
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Why are you talking to me about this? What does it have to do with anything I'm alleging.
It has everything to do with it. It's the entire reason people don't fricking believe in your Russian boogeyman. How many times do you expect the people to see you trying to have it both ways before they start ignoring you?
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Such as? Let's hear your idea of a preposterous scenario, Vacherie.
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Either Obama is ignorant, a hack who will lie to the people about their safety to get elected, or Russia has had the greatest 3 year rise to power in the history of the world.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:11 am to Navytiger74
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, but apparently doesn't take the same position on Russia.
Because a ex employee said so.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:11 am to ShortyRob
Don't get fricky with me. That wasn't my idea.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:14 am to ShortyRob
quote:Your lack of fricks is noted. At least you aren't playing stupid about it for once.
If I find out who all the rapists in my city are because all the murderers leaked the info, the source will not change my view of the rapists.
If potential rapists want to solve the problem, they have it entirely within their power.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:14 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:LOL
Don't get fricky with me. That wasn't my idea.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:15 am to Navytiger74
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You guys such hopeless dorks. The pro-Russia hard-on is nothing new around here, but the lengths you go to in ignoring the apparent is something to behold. Again, this is the position of the U.S. and the British governments, backed by their technical collections and anaylitical enterprises.
The position of the US government re: DNC hacks is entirely based on the analysis/investigation done by the DNC's own investigator, Crowdstrike. The US government never analyzed the server. And Crowdstrike's investigation was rife with errors. The so-called evidence that the DNC server was hacked by Putin's folks is tenuous at best.
But what do I know. I'm just a skeptical, hopeless dork.
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