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Posted on 8/20/12 at 11:54 am to
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 11:54 am to
God you're a stupid SOB

VAT must be paid in Spain if a Spanish transaction.

VAT must be paid in Germany, if an EU transaction.
This post was edited on 8/20/12 at 11:57 am
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 11:57 am to
God you're really easy to troll.



But I guess Spain's 24% unemployment is the sign of a successful economy ;)
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 11:59 am to
If Bilbao would accept the 40mm from Bayern, the club, the 6mm in taxes would not be triggered. Because Bilbao is insisting that Javi pay his buyout clause, 40mm, and because Javi is a Spanish citizen he then gets an additional 6mm tacked on to the fee.

That's what is holding up the transfer.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

But I guess Spain's 24% unemployment is the sign of a successful economy ;)


They'd be devolving to the third world, if it weren't for Germany.
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

the 6mm in taxes would not be triggered.

15% VAT?

quote:

If Bilbao would accept the 40mm from Bayern, the club

Bayern would have to pay VAT in Germany.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

They'd be devolving to the third world, if it weren't for Germany.

Whew! Good thing we've got an award winning economist on this board.

Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 12:06 pm to
Bayern would have to put 40mm in Javi's account. The Spanish government would then tax him 6mm on the 40mm that would be put into his account. That's hindering the transfer. Here:

LINK

The Spanish tax authorities are holding this up as is Urrutia with his attempt to save face with the crazy fans. That tax would not be included if the money would never be put into Javi's name.
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 12:06 pm to
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But I guess Spain's 24% unemployment is the sign of a successful economy ;)

You're now officially part of the US's 12-14%?
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 12:11 pm to
Nope and I also never said you were part of Spain's 24.6, just acknowledged its existence.
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 12:11 pm to
15% is better than the current VAT (21%).

That does suck for Bayern, but I'm sure they've known this all along (hence the playing it out in the media).
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 12:12 pm to
24.44%
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 12:13 pm to
Urrutia was orginally going to accept the 40mm from Bayern but because of the backlash, changed his stance and will only accept it from Javi so it won't look like they're trying to cash in on their best players.

Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

Urrutia was orginally going to accept the 40mm from Bayern but because of the backlash, changed his stance and will only accept it from Javi so it won't look like they're trying to cash in on their best players.

Where is it documented that he was to accept the transfer fee from Munich?

If true, that sucks, but I have always seen the
'there's the fee, and conditions, we will not negotiate'.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 12:18 pm to
It was always "we won't sell the play for a penny less than 40mm"

Bayern finally caved to that, with Javi willing to take a 2mm per year paycut over 5 years to pay the final 10. Then Urrutia decided he wouldn't take the 40mm bid. Instead, Javi would have to trigger his own opt out clause.
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 12:22 pm to
I'm sure his contract contains a recision clause.

As to the content of that clause, were it different than what he is representing, there'd be a big row over this, wouldn't there?

I don't see one, so it sounds as if they've known all along.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 12:25 pm to
The problem isn't the clause. The problem is how Athletic Bilbao wants the clause paid. They won't accept the clause from Bayern Munich, only from Javi Martinez himself which then triggers 6mm more because he's a Spanish citizen.

They're holding a player hostage who wants to leave when they're getting twice his market value.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51401 posts
Posted on 8/20/12 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

The problem isn't the clause. The problem is how Athletic Bilbao wants the clause paid. They won't accept the clause from Bayern Munich, only from Javi Martinez himself which then triggers 6mm more because he's a Spanish citizen.

They're holding a player hostage who wants to leave when they're getting twice his market value.


The problem is the clause. If they will only accept the fee from him, it is because that is what is stipulated in the clause, otherwise this shite would be big time news.
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 12:27 pm to
I RA'd for this thread to be moved to the Global Economics Board.
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 12:37 pm to
It is clear, if what I'm seeing on an Athletic forum is correct.

The player receives 15% from a transfer, so Bilbao would receive 34M (were they to accept a transfer fee).

The rescision clause obviously is in the club's best interest, and obviously must prevail according to his contract, or this would be a major scandal (which I insist, it does not look like it is).
This post was edited on 8/20/12 at 12:38 pm
Posted by etm512
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Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

Ki Sung-yueng to Swansea deal is close.


Laudrup doing work. Reportedly 6 million pounds

How do yall type the pound signal?

:inbeforesmartass#:
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