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Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:55 am to
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:55 am to
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My point is you didn't try to score.

I think you're starting to get a little carried away with your exaggerations.

The shot count was 9 (3) to 7 (1).

Yes, De Gea had to make the better saves, but let's not act like Liverpool just peppered the goal while United played keep-away.

It was a highly defensive strategy and Liverpool were better in the second half, but come on. Don't make this into something more than it is.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 9:58 am
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
118054 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:03 am to
It is what Jose does. On the road against top teams he is willing to take a point. In the long run no one will remember anything besides the result.
Posted by TheIrishFro
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:07 am to
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This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 7:57 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126701 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:11 am to
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You keep ignoring the fact that Karius could've set up a cot in goal. I'm trying to emphasize that on one end we saw a header in which the keeper didn't have to move his feet and a few shots from 25 yards out. On the other end David De Gea is having to show why he's still the best goalkeeper in the world. That is where I see the difference.


You do realize DDG didn't have to do a damn thing for almost 70mins. Karius also looked lost trying to gather crosses and Zlatan should have put that header on net. There was 3 good chances 2 for Liverpool 1 for United. Liverpool did not threaten other than those two shots in the span of a few mins. You and your lot are deluded if you really think you were the better team last night. It was tactical stale mate and the result showed.

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We can agree to disagree, though. If United run this gauntlet they have coming up until December 4th with some success I'll come back and eat as much crow as you guys want to serve, and give your boys their due. I just think Mourinho is wholly the wrong manager for your club.


A point vs an attacking Liverpool side in form in which we limited them to two chances at home is fine with the matches we have coming up. Two derbies in 10 days is brutal.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 10:12 am
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:12 am to
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i'm fine with the point, the performance, and how we were set up, especially with our gauntlet coming up.


This is the exciting part from a LFC POV

:dancingbananas:
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
19014 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:13 am to
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Yes, De Gea had to make the better saves, but let's not act like Liverpool just peppered the goal while United played keep-awa


First off, that statistic means nothing when you're cranking shots from 35 yards out. We didn't pepper the goal but our chances forced your goalkeeper to make genuine saves. Your chances did not do the same.

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It was a highly defensive strategy and Liverpool were better in the second half, but come on. Don't make this into something more than it is.


Can you honestly tell me we didn't look the more likely to score? Forget that you controlled the midfield for the first 30 minutes. Controlling the midfield doesn't score goals, shots do.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126701 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:13 am to
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but come on. Don't make this into something more than it is.


Bruv this is Liverpool in a nut shell.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126701 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:15 am to

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First off, that statistic means nothing when you're cranking shots from 35 yards out. We didn't pepper the goal but our chances forced your goalkeeper to make genuine saves. Your chances did not do the same.


The Cou shot yes, the Can one there was never a doubt bc it wasn't a great shot.


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Forget that you controlled the midfield for the first 30 minutes. Controlling the midfield doesn't score goals, shots do.


shite it wasn't just the midfield the first half every time Sky put the chart up, the ball was mostly in the midfield or your third. We just could not generate anything in Liverpool's third.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 10:16 am
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
19014 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:23 am to
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You and your lot are deluded if you really think you were the better team last night. It was tactical stale mate and the result showed.


Deluded I may be, but when United are afraid to attack Liverpool in a northwest derby, with the most expensive team in the world, I can't help but walk away with a big smile on my face. Yesterday I watched grown men from England who have lectured me time and again on United's swagger, prestige, bravery, and bravado jump up and down and hug each other after getting a draw without even attempting to play football with Liverpool.

If you're ok with that state of things, then there's not much of a point in going further. I think United are better than that though.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 10:31 am
Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
7103 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:24 am to
So the way we played was the exciting part? I think you would hurt Klopp's feelings with that opinion.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
19014 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:25 am to
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The Cou shot yes, the Can one there was never a doubt bc it wasn't a great shot.


That Can save was world class. That goes in against 90% of keepers.

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shite it wasn't just the midfield the first half every time Sky put the chart up, the ball was mostly in the midfield or your third. We just could not generate anything in Liverpool's third.


You do realize the point of the game is to score, right? When in that first 30 did you make Karius move his feet?
Posted by Tigerstark
Parts unknown
Member since Aug 2011
6927 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:32 am to
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In the long run no one will remember anything besides the result.


I don't know, Jose's 6-3-1 formation may revolutionize the sport.

I completely understand why Jose did it - he couldn't afford a loss to Liverpool after the City game with whats in front of him.

His number 1 goal was to not let us score. Mission accomplished. He's a results guy and couldn't care less about anything else.

'Pool were certainly less attack focused than usual with Lallana and Wij out. United's pressure in the midfield had a lot to do with that. United tired around the 60 minute mark which opened things up.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:33 am to
Nope, happy about the new United mindset!
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
19014 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:41 am to
6-3-1

Tactical master class!

Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:43 am to
Let me be clear, how United played doesn't bother me. That's Jose, I get it, I have no problem with it.

Just glad Klopp is different.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
19014 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:49 am to
I should also be clear, I've never ciriticized Jose's tactics. I'm just baffled at United fan's acceptance of those tactics. And that's solely based on the preaching and overtures I've had to endure from their fans since I was a child watching these teams play. All those lectures I've had on the "proper" way to play - the "united" way to play.

The irony.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Member since Oct 2014
45311 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:52 am to
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I'm just baffled at United fan's acceptance of those tactics


Well they've been mediocre for the last several years. It's just the mindset of mediocrity setting in.

In their minds, winning the League or FA Cup is considered a success, threatening for the actual league title or comfortably making Europe is not something the fan base expects any more and you can see that in the way that they play.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
19014 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:54 am to
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It's just the mindset of mediocrity setting in.


This is exactly what Beast was getting at above.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:58 am to
In reality, a point at Anfield is never a bad result.

But the other reality is they're in 7th and still have to play Chelsea, Arsenal, Everton and Spurs before Christmas, and have some brutal non-league games along the way.

They needed 3 pts and never properly went for it like Fergie would have in a week where City, Everton, Spurs all dropped points.

Just not the United I've known and I'm okay with it!
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126701 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:59 am to
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Well they've been mediocre for the last several years. It's just the mindset of mediocrity setting in.


quote:

In their minds, winning the League or FA Cup is considered a success, threatening for the actual league title or comfortably making Europe is not something the fan base expects any more and you can see that in the way that they play.



Dude says the fan base that went nuts after beating Liverpool fr the league cup. get that weak shite out of here.
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