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re: USMNT Captain Michael Bradley had this to say about the travel ban
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:38 pm to etm512
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:38 pm to etm512
Those words are not mentioned directly. However, the EO says that anyone claiming religious persecution in one of the 7 countries listed in the EO will receive priority for entry to this country if their religion is a minority religion in their country. Since all of those countries are majority Muslim, that in effect moves all the Muslims to the back of the line.
ETA: Also an interesting fact that I just heard today and found quite eye opening. For those who like to point to Germany and their immigration policy as a reason why the US should not accept any refugees: Germany has taken in 964,000 Syrian refugees, meanwhile the USA (a much larger country in both population and area) has taken in only 12,000. I don't think it's a good idea to take in nearly as many as Germany because it's just not feasible, but I do think it's morally wrong to put a blanket ban on people fleeing an awful situation in a wartorn country. Wasn't it Reagan who said the US should be a shining city on a hill? I don't think that means closing ourselves off to those who seek to work hard to improve the lives of themselves and their families.
ETA: Also an interesting fact that I just heard today and found quite eye opening. For those who like to point to Germany and their immigration policy as a reason why the US should not accept any refugees: Germany has taken in 964,000 Syrian refugees, meanwhile the USA (a much larger country in both population and area) has taken in only 12,000. I don't think it's a good idea to take in nearly as many as Germany because it's just not feasible, but I do think it's morally wrong to put a blanket ban on people fleeing an awful situation in a wartorn country. Wasn't it Reagan who said the US should be a shining city on a hill? I don't think that means closing ourselves off to those who seek to work hard to improve the lives of themselves and their families.
This post was edited on 1/30/17 at 11:59 pm
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Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:47 pm to Patron Saint
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Also an interesting fact that I just heard today and found quite eye opening. For those who like to point to Germany and their immigration policy as a reason why the US should not accept any refugees: Germany has taken in 964,000 Syrian refugees, meanwhile the USA (a much larger country in both population and area) has taken in only 12,000. I don't think it's a good idea to take in nearly as many as Germany because it's just not feasible, but I do think it's morally wrong to put a blanket ban on people fleeing an awful situation in a wartorn country. Wasn't it Reagan who said the US should be a shining city on a hill? I don't think that means closing ourselves off to those who seek to work hard to improve the lives of themselves and their families.
Right
And people act like Obama opened the floodgates for refugees. Our refugee numbers have been pretty consistent since 2000
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:20 am to BleedPurpleGold
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People who had a perfectly legal justification for entering the country were denied entry. It's an unconstitutional detainment.
lol
Foreign nationals do not have a constitutional right to enter the US you moron.
Geez I've met some dumb bastards in my time but you're right up at the top of the heap.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:16 am to LuckyTiger
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Foreign nationals do not have a constitutional right to enter the US you moron.
I suggest you turn on your tv. You evidently have zero idea about what is going on. Both dual nationals and green card holders were denied entry. Both have the legal right to enter this country.
Pro tip: successful attorneys read things. I suggest you try it.
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Geez I've met some dumb bastards in my time but you're right up at the top of the heap
You're acting like a child. Address the substantive issues or move along. This isn't the Rant, we don't have time for your temper tantrums.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 4:22 am to LuckyTiger
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Geez I've met some dumb bastards in my time
You know that you can argue/debate with other people without being a condescending a-hole right?
This post was edited on 1/31/17 at 4:25 am
Posted on 1/31/17 at 5:08 am to DB10_AFC
I agree. Tell him that.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 5:11 am to LuckyTiger
I enjoy a good SB bitch fest, but not on topics like this.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 5:14 am to BleedPurpleGold
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I suggest you turn on your tv. You evidently have zero idea about what is going on. Both dual nationals and green card holders were denied entry. Both have the legal right to enter this country
Having a green card does not equate to a constitutional right. Green card holders are still aliens. They do not have many of the constitutional rights that citizens hold. And green card holders can have privileges and statuses revoked. Finally, again, no foreign national has a constitutional right to enter the US.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 5:16 am to LuckyTiger
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And green card holders can have privileges and statuses revoked
True but its a very lengthy legal processes that requires significant just cause. Usually doing something illegal.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 5:16 am to StraightCashHomey21
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I enjoy a good SB bitch fest, but not on topics like this
Agreed.
It's gone on long enough. So I'm moving on and hopefully this thread slides off the page.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 5:17 am to StraightCashHomey21
Dammit SCH I'm trying to move on!
Posted on 1/31/17 at 5:20 am to LuckyTiger
Just trying to clear things up 
Posted on 1/31/17 at 5:22 am to StraightCashHomey21
Must...not...post...
I'm off for a run. Damn it's cold this morning.
I'm off for a run. Damn it's cold this morning.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 6:31 am to LuckyTiger
SNOWFLAKE, TRUMPKIN, OBAMABIRTHER, TINY HANDS, DEPLORABLE, LIBTARD
#NOTMYSOCCERBOARD
I feel better now. Quality morning dump post.
#NOTMYSOCCERBOARD
I feel better now. Quality morning dump post.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 7:14 am to cwil177
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Stewie, from working in public hospitals where practically none of our patients pay for any of their bills (but the tax payer does), I can absolutely say that we are encouraging people to have kids who have no business having kids. Some of them don't even try to hide that they are having these kids to up their welfare checks, naming their children things like "cash money." A lot of these kids are born to mothers who don't have a lot of prenatal care (often by choice or gross negligence) and mothers abusing drugs, alcohol, having multiple STDs, etc. These all add complexity and complication to medical care of the mother and the child, sometimes causing issues for life that we have to care for. Those sad kids are screwed from the get go, and the tax payer foots the bill for their mother's (and usually absent father's) poor decisions... over and over and over. It gets old after a while. We definitely have population and culture issues in this country that no politician wants to touch because of the dreaded r word.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 8:48 am to LuckyTiger
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It's gone on long enough. So I'm moving on and hopefully this thread slides off the page.
Yeah you and me both. When you start posting about me on others boards you've officially reached Swim Fan levels. Gonna back out of here before you track down my home address or something.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 8:53 am to LuckyTiger
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Having a green card does not equate to a constitutional right. Green card holders are still aliens. They do not have many of the constitutional rights that citizens hold.
The 14th Amendment is pretty clear about this actually:
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No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Notice that the 14th Amendment uses citizens in one places, and persons in another. This means that non-citizens (“persons”) have due process and equal protection rights, once in the territory of the United States. The Fifth Amendment (which applies to the federal government) likewise uses the phrase “no person shall be . . . deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.”
Long story short, you're wrong
This post was edited on 1/31/17 at 8:54 am
Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:05 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Long story short, you're wrong
Yeah they're legally sanctioned residents of the United States. We can't just round them up and throw them in jail or detain them because we want to. They are afforded due process like any other human being, whether legally approved to reside here or not.
This post was edited on 1/31/17 at 9:14 am
Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:08 am to BleedPurpleGold
All this is making me over the moon thrilled to move back to America
Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:48 am to RedRifle
Like him less and less every match....
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