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re: The Walking Dead Official Comics and Speculation Thread ***Spoilers***
Posted on 4/4/16 at 8:32 am to lakeviewtiger
Posted on 4/4/16 at 8:32 am to lakeviewtiger
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If that's the case it's Glenn. When the doors open, you see Daryll in front of you, if they did in fact go first person.
Although they've deviated from the comics on who dies when, it makes a lot of sense for it to be Glenn like the comics. His death sets it up for Maggie to take over at Hilltop.
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Posted on 4/4/16 at 8:44 am to Jester
Exactly. It all makes complete sense.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 9:24 am to LSU Patrick
Man, that ending was such a missed opportunity by the writers. All the narrow escapes by Glenn, all the foreshadowing between Glenn and Maggie...wasted. JDM as Negan has a tremendous presence and had an awesome introduction but seeing him bash Glenn's brains in right in front of pregnant Maggie after all the shite she went through trying to get to Hilltop would've immediately vaulted Negan to the top of TWD villains immediately with just one scene. Then we the audience would've had 6 months to try and digest what just happened and where do things go from here.
What a fricking joke.
What a fricking joke.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 10:11 am to TheDarrell McSteal
Either they just totally sold out for cash and social media buzz (likely), or they really did think that they were geniuses, and that everyone would love it. If the latter is true, then watching Gimple on TWD last night was kind of ironic. He seemed visibly shaken by the response. I wanted JDM to just turn to him and say "the moment you realize you don't know shite..."
I feel like who they did a disservice to the most are the people who don't stream or download the show, but instead watch it for an hour live every Sunday night. Those are the viewers who have invested a lot of time into this season, only to have them pull a cheap bait and switch, which is exactly what it is. No pseudo-creative bullshite explanation could justify that sorry excuse for "storytelling."
I hope that comic sales take a hit too. Kirkman is just as guilty as Gimple. I wish they'd just admit that the comics and the show are not meant for the same audience.
I feel like who they did a disservice to the most are the people who don't stream or download the show, but instead watch it for an hour live every Sunday night. Those are the viewers who have invested a lot of time into this season, only to have them pull a cheap bait and switch, which is exactly what it is. No pseudo-creative bullshite explanation could justify that sorry excuse for "storytelling."
I hope that comic sales take a hit too. Kirkman is just as guilty as Gimple. I wish they'd just admit that the comics and the show are not meant for the same audience.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 10:36 am to CaptSpaulding
So I've rewatched it a few times and I'm pretty it's Glenn now. There was some foreshadowing earlier on when Negan says he's going to kill one of them and the camera jumps to a shot of Glenn. And also notice the background behind Negan, there's no RV behind him when he picks his victim. Glenn was in front of the woods not the RV like virtually everyone else besides Daryl and Rosita. Now there's still a possibility it could be Daryl since Negan looks to both sides right before he kills said person but that camera cut plus the scene with the pictures has me convinced it's Glenn
Posted on 4/4/16 at 10:42 am to dawgfan24348
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So I've rewatched it a few times and I'm pretty it's Glenn now. There was some foreshadowing earlier on when Negan says he's going to kill one of them and the camera jumps to a shot of Glenn. And also notice the background behind Negan, there's no RV behind him when he picks his victim. Glenn was in front of the woods not the RV like virtually everyone else besides Daryl and Rosita. Now there's still a possibility it could be Daryl since Negan looks to both sides right before he kills said person but that camera cut plus the scene with the pictures has me convinced it's Glenn
I also noticed that Glenn was conspicuously absent during the picking game.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 10:51 am to Jester
Posted on 4/4/16 at 10:51 am to Jester
I said this last night but I'm ok with Kirkman's explanation on Talking Dead. He said this episode was only a finale in a sense that it's the last one for the season. That's it. Who died isn't really the important take from the episode. It's that Rick's arrogance was intended to be built up only to have it come crashing down in a big way. He said they'll deal with the "who" in season 7. I'm good with that explanation. I know they knew it would cause shite but at least they had a halfway decent excuse in the chamber.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 10:54 am to Jester
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I also noticed that Glenn was conspicuously absent during the picking game.
Someone also said that in the POV scene from the cage, darryls voice can be heard indicating that the shot was Glenn's POV. I haven't rewatched so idk how true that is.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:13 am to Tigerdew
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Who died isn't really the important take from the episode. It's that Rick's arrogance was intended to be built up only to have it come crashing down in a big way.
I agree with this, but I'd argue that by not showing who it was, the only thing that people are talking about is #WhoIsIt. The threat Negan poses is an afterthought.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:32 am to CaptSpaulding
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I'd argue that by not showing who it was, the only thing that people are talking about is #WhoIsIt. The threat Negan poses is an afterthought.
I agree with this statement. Not showing who died has completely overshadowed the Negan reveal.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:34 am to Tigerdew
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Who died isn't really the important take from the episode. It's that Rick's arrogance was intended to be built up only to have it come crashing down in a big way. He said they'll deal with the "who" in season 7. I'm good with that explanation. I know they knew it would cause shite but at least they had a halfway decent excuse in the chamber.
I don't find that to be a good explanation at all
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:36 am to CaptSpaulding
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The threat Negan poses is an afterthought.
Among some I'm sure the death is the focus. I mean it's potentially a huge character. But Negans threat is huge in my mind. The number of fighters he has. The organization. The total brutality. The length he went to to drive home his point with the roadblocks. This dude is lethal.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:41 am to imjustafatkid
Yep they ruined Negan's impact with this dumb cliffhanger.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:44 am to BilJ
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I don't find that to be a good explanation at all
Well, it's half-assed but I can at least make some sense of it. I just think if they show that scene it all it's brutal glory last night it would've had a much greater impact on TWD world.
Side note: Was Dwight out there in that group last night? I don't remember.
This post was edited on 4/4/16 at 11:46 am
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:46 am to Tigerdew
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Was Dwight out there in that group last night?
Yes. He was with the group that let the captives out of their cage.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:47 am to Tigerdew
Yup he was the one who got Daryl, Glenn, Rosita, and Michonne out of the van
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:48 am to Tigerdew
The problem with that explanation is that is accomplished the opposite of what he was saying.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:58 am to geauxjo
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The length he went to to drive home his point with the roadblocks.
The roadblocks themselves were impossible. No way they were able to coordinate that in that way without knowing where Rick and the gang were headed beforehand. I guess this could be explained with a "mole," because they would have to absolutely know the Alexandrians are sans any doctors and have a pregnant woman who isn't showing yet. And THEN they'd have to be lucky enough to know where and when Rick's group would be going at least twice so they could know where to put down a bunch of trees that took much longer than the amount of time it took Rick's group to drive there. The way the roadblocks were done seems completely impossible.
Maybe I'm not remembering correctly, but in the comics didn't Negan stop the group on the way back from the Hilltop? I seem to remember someone from the Hilltop tipping off Negan so he would know when to nab them. That made a whole lot more sense.
This post was edited on 4/4/16 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:59 am to Smoke7024
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The problem with that explanation is that is accomplished the opposite of what he was saying.
Well yeah, but I honestly think they had no clue the backlash would be this bad.
And I just went back and read issues 101 & 102 and the first 2 episodes of S7 will be interesting to see how they handle the attack on Alexandria and who is held captive when Rick gets back.
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