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re: Has anyone heard that Crowton
Posted on 12/26/10 at 11:40 am to Captain Aubrey
Posted on 12/26/10 at 11:40 am to Captain Aubrey
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Would you like to wager on it?
credibility
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Posted on 12/26/10 at 11:52 am to Hot Carl
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Like I said, I love Miles, but you are just horrible. Truly, truly horrible. You give positigers everywhere a bad name.
I'm sowwwy Carl.
Am I bad because I refuse to buy into a fourth hand un substantiated rumors; because I prefer to have facts over rumor, inuendo and childish musings; because I don't join internet lynch mobs led buy people who are totally cluless about how a football team really operates: because I turn my back on people that delight in character assinations while hiding behind their keyboards?
I can live with that.
Posted on 12/26/10 at 12:22 pm to Uncommon Cents
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Am I bad because I refuse to buy into a fourth hand un substantiated rumors; because I prefer to have facts over rumor, inuendo and childish musings
Due to a lack LSU-related news coming out, 95% of the stuff that is posted on this board regarding LSU coaching changes is rumor or stuff somebody heard from someone else. If you really had a problem with "fourth hand un substantiated rumors" as you put it, you wouldn't be reading any of these posts.
Posted on 12/26/10 at 12:57 pm to south bama tiger
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Due to a lack LSU-related news coming out, 95% of the stuff that is posted on this board regarding LSU coaching changes is rumor or stuff somebody heard from someone else. If you really had a problem with "fourth hand un substantiated rumors" as you put it, you wouldn't be reading any of these posts.
1. Maybe, just maybe someone will post something substantial. It does happen.
2. The "I heard it" means nothing. People have been saying that GC was going to be replaced since September. Of last year.
If you don't know something is true don't post it. I mean you expect us to believe that some trainer in some JC in Texas has indepth information regarding LSU football? Just beause the guy at the end bar stool said it?
Please.
Posted on 12/26/10 at 1:03 pm to Tiger4Ever
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Logically, this doesn't make any sense
yes it does
teams don't know his offense, then after year 1 his tendencies and plays/formations are scouted cold
Posted on 12/26/10 at 1:05 pm to Tiger4Ever
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Regardless, the guy called one of the most prolific offenses in LSU history in '07.
most talented team in the NCAA and he used a lot of jimbo's offense. as he's implemented his offense, we've gone to shite
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I think there is hope for him if a qualified person took over QB development.
this is a part of it, but his offense and his patterns of playcalling have been studied cold and he's not goin to do shite in the SEC any time soon. defenses know what plays we're running most of the time
Posted on 12/26/10 at 1:07 pm to Uncommon Cents
I totally agree with you, man. No one should ever question the performance of the coaches unless they have coached at that level before. The Rant should be filled with threads projecting next year's starters and Day Wishes. And no one should speculate about coaching changes on the Coaching Changes Board.
Posted on 12/26/10 at 1:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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this is a part of it, but his offense and his patterns of playcalling have been studied cold and he's not goin to do shite in the SEC any time soon. defenses know what plays we're running most of the time
Aren't all teams extensively scouted? Don't all DC's have tendency charts on the opponents? Isn't that how defenses are prepared?
Posted on 12/26/10 at 1:12 pm to Uncommon Cents
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Aren't all teams extensively scouted?
yes, but most coaches know how to change things up in playcalling/scheming to diffuse the study on the offense
crowton has failed at this
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Don't all DC's have tendency charts on the opponents? I
yes, but good OCs know how to use this against a defense by thinking on the 2nd level
crowton plays into these charts perfectly
Posted on 12/26/10 at 2:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
We are the best fourth and short offense in college football, esp. from the punt and FG formations.
If only we could show some improvement on the other three downs.
A change in offensive coordination is needed, was needed, and will more than likely still be needed come 2011. I think it's obvious that the ball is in Crowton's court, and he's having a hard time advancing it.
If only we could show some improvement on the other three downs.
A change in offensive coordination is needed, was needed, and will more than likely still be needed come 2011. I think it's obvious that the ball is in Crowton's court, and he's having a hard time advancing it.
Posted on 12/26/10 at 2:59 pm to Uncommon Cents
I'm not here to defend Crowton but there are a lot of inconsistencies in the criticism of him. Some say there's no rhyme or reason to his game planning while others say his pattern gets figured out by opponents. This sounds inconsistent to me.
Another says the QB ability to read defenses and the play calling are equally the problem. Seems to me if the QB can't make the reads then you can't really say whether the playcalling is bad.
I tend to think that the QB coaching is the main problem. I think he is a pretty effective game planne and play caller GIVEN a well coached QB.
And just to be clear, I do think he should be replaced assuming a reasonably capable replacement can be found.
Another says the QB ability to read defenses and the play calling are equally the problem. Seems to me if the QB can't make the reads then you can't really say whether the playcalling is bad.
I tend to think that the QB coaching is the main problem. I think he is a pretty effective game planne and play caller GIVEN a well coached QB.
And just to be clear, I do think he should be replaced assuming a reasonably capable replacement can be found.
Posted on 12/26/10 at 3:08 pm to KCinDC
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Some say there's no rhyme or reason to his game planning while others say his pattern gets figured out by opponents. This sounds inconsistent to me.
it's not inconsistent
his patterns are illogical, but consistent
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I think he is a pretty effective game planne and play caller GIVEN a well coached QB.
he's never shown the ability to develop a QB, though
Posted on 12/26/10 at 3:08 pm to KCinDC
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Some say there's no rhyme or reason to his game planning while others say his pattern gets figured out by opponents.
it's both.
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the QB ability to read defenses and the play calling are equally the problem. Seems to me if the QB can't make the reads then you can't really say whether the play calling is bad.
yes you can. Regardless of whether the qb is awful he is running the plays the coach tell him too.
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I tend to think that the QB coaching is the main problem.
which he is in charge of.
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I think he is a pretty effective game planne and play caller GIVEN a well coached QB.
he is in charge of coaching up the qb. In addition, he has made qb's worse everyone he has been.
Posted on 12/26/10 at 3:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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he's never shown the ability to develop a QB, though
and even if he is an effective planner and play caller.. that alone should be reason to part ways
Posted on 12/26/10 at 7:15 pm to KCinDC
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there are a lot of inconsistencies in the criticism of him.
Welcome to the rant. Logic, reason and football knowlege are rare here once the villagers get their torches and pitchforks out. The only consistancies are their delusions.
Posted on 12/26/10 at 7:22 pm to Uncommon Cents
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Welcome to the rant. Logic, reason and football knowlege are rare here once the villagers get their torches and pitchforks out. The only consistancies are their delusions.
i explained the perceived "inconsistencies"
Posted on 12/26/10 at 10:54 pm to BilJ
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you calling anyone an idiot is pretty damn funny
He's spot on correct. Nobody here knows shite and the posts to this thread are ludicrous.
Posted on 12/26/10 at 10:57 pm to Uncommon Cents
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Am I bad because I refuse to buy into a fourth hand un substantiated rumors; because I prefer to have facts over rumor, inuendo and childish musings; because I don't join internet lynch mobs led buy people who are totally cluless about how a football team really operates: because I turn my back on people that delight in character assinations while hiding behind their keyboards?
How f'kin naive are you? The advise I have for you is to avoid internet message boards. MOST of the information you see posted on any board is innuendo, rumor and opinion.
You are definitely in over your head here.
Posted on 12/26/10 at 11:14 pm to RogerTheShrubber
SCOREBOARD
It is what it is and we are 100th in offense!...Not just once, but twice in a row!
WE ahve some of the best talent in America and he is a failure at leading it to a respectable position.
It IS that simple! No arguing the facts.
It is what it is and we are 100th in offense!...Not just once, but twice in a row!
WE ahve some of the best talent in America and he is a failure at leading it to a respectable position.
It IS that simple! No arguing the facts.
This post was edited on 12/26/10 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 12/26/10 at 11:26 pm to the LSUSaint
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I IS that simple! No arguing the facts.
yes you are...no argument at all
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