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re: Jack Del Rio
Posted on 11/28/07 at 9:03 pm to Colonel Hapablap
Posted on 11/28/07 at 9:03 pm to Colonel Hapablap
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bet he can't recruit, though.
Bet he is not being talked about as a college coach either is he.
Del Rio is a great coach, any coach in the league or D1 is probably a great coach, they would not be there if they werent proven somewhere.
But most end in being fired cause they dont succeed.
DelRio may be the best recruiter and college coach in the South, but it is an unknown, I would prefer a known college entity. Why is this so alarming?
This post was edited on 11/28/07 at 9:05 pm
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Posted on 11/28/07 at 9:04 pm to ShooterMcGavin
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Both of them should be considered busts,
Jones has actually looked pretty good when he plays. But he's inactive a lot. A lot of people in Jax say Del Rio has mismanaged their WR talent.
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Garrard and Leftwich were both hurt on and off the last few years, but Garrard has been on when healthy this year,
Yeah Garrard has looked great this year... and it was Jack's decision to go with him. That was definitely a great move.
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, and their running game with Fred Taylor and MJD has been more than solid.
No doubt about that. The guy definitely knows how to pound the rock and how to feed his best players the ball.
Posted on 11/28/07 at 9:07 pm to True Grit
quote:
Yeah, he wouldnt do crap at LSU, where he would inherit one of the most talented teams in CFB. You are a dumbass if you think he would be a bad college coach. Your argument is complete shite, so go ahead and stop pushing it and embarrassing yourself.
I embrass myself by stating my opinion, and you somehow shine with,
yeah,
You are a dumbass
your argument is shite (with no counter)
stop pushing is (pushing what?)
embarassing myself? Not the one with DelRio spooge on my chin
Posted on 11/28/07 at 9:10 pm to kfaulk99
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i think he beat the Colts, while amassing over 300 yards rushing, last year...I think that's the year the Colts won the SB. Could be wrong though...
So the year he went 8-8 and finished third in his FOUR team conference is a success because of this??
Posted on 11/28/07 at 9:12 pm to tigerfoot
Do you realize that the pros are a completely different animal than CFB? The Jags are one game from being division leaders and are probably going to the playoffs. Del Rio's defenses are usually always one of the best defenses in the league. You are either crazy or a huge dumbass if you dont want him.
Posted on 11/28/07 at 9:13 pm to tigerfoot
Where is his recruiting record? He knows nothing about recruiting in the SEC like Spurrier or Saban or Tuberville.
Posted on 11/28/07 at 9:15 pm to Tiger1955
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He knows nothing about recruiting in the SEC like Spurrier or Saban or Tuberville.
i like how you pick 1 HC who hates to recruit to prove how JDR would be a bad recruiter
Posted on 11/28/07 at 9:15 pm to tigerfoot
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So second place is OK with you, that is cool. I mean if the other team is really really good.
Give me a break, these are pros, they get paid to WIN they have a payroll, they have similar facilities, they have the same shot at free agency, they have better draft picks.
Now that you have resorted to the witty comeback of name calling,
Better to be fricking stupid than to be a complacent second place apologist, how is the view from behind the winner?
I would completely agree with you if the NFL was like CFB, and the coaches were 100% responsible for the roster. Realistically speaking, that's not the case at all.
If Del Rio had the horses to run with Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, and hadn't been able to do so, then I'd probably agree with you. Don't forget, the GM's usually run the show when it comes to picking players. If the coach / GM don't see eye to eye, it could make for uneven results.
I know where you're coming from, because I don't want the next head coach at LSU to be a failure. I like the program where it is, and the success LSU has seen in this decade is pretty impressive. I differ in opinions from you, however, because I think Del Rio would be capable of doing a great job at LSU.
Posted on 11/28/07 at 9:18 pm to Tiger1955
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Where is his recruiting record? He knows nothing about recruiting in the SEC like Spurrier or Saban or Tuberville.
Nick Saban had soooo much SEC experience when he came here, err wait.
On beating the Colts the man had Byron Leftwich as his QB for years and still managed to get to the playoffs, what more can you expect?
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Pete Carroll never won in the NFL. I guess that didn't work out too well at USC huh?
This post was edited on 11/28/07 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 11/28/07 at 11:01 pm to Acreboy
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I think he may be more of a motivator than anything.
He's more than a motivator, he coached LBs on the best defense in history and when he became the "shot caller", the DC for Carolina, they went from 31st to 2nd in his only year there...same players.
His players play hard for him, plus he knows his defensive X/Os. Given the choice between a coach who will have tough defense and 'find a way to score' and a coach who will have a great offense but will 'find a way to stop them'...I'll take the defensive coach every time - and so would history!
Posted on 11/28/07 at 11:07 pm to Tiger1955
You are overrating how hard it is to be a recruiter. It is supremely important to be recruit good kids, but it is not as hard to recruit as you must think it is.
Any coach at a big school that has a personality or has a forceful nature (gets men to follow him), can recruit very well. JDR has this leadership ability, his players at Jax talk about it, his ex teammates at USC talk about it, and coaches that know him talk about it.
If everyone who's ever been associated with a person says he can make people follow him, then he can make recruits follow him to LSU. It's as simple as that.
Any coach at a big school that has a personality or has a forceful nature (gets men to follow him), can recruit very well. JDR has this leadership ability, his players at Jax talk about it, his ex teammates at USC talk about it, and coaches that know him talk about it.
If everyone who's ever been associated with a person says he can make people follow him, then he can make recruits follow him to LSU. It's as simple as that.
Posted on 11/28/07 at 11:19 pm to philter
Del Rio could be an exciting hire.
I don't know if he is a hard arse Saban-style or not, but if he is, he's someone a lot of our fans would live vicariously through....he could be a role model/hero to a lot of them, even if he yielded the same results at Miles.
I don't know if he is a hard arse Saban-style or not, but if he is, he's someone a lot of our fans would live vicariously through....he could be a role model/hero to a lot of them, even if he yielded the same results at Miles.
Posted on 11/28/07 at 11:36 pm to Rocket
he is a hard arse for sure, but not a dick head
Posted on 11/28/07 at 11:49 pm to Rocket
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I don't know if he is a hard arse Saban-style or not,
No not really. Can imagine Saban making bets with his players?
Posted on 11/29/07 at 12:15 am to TheEdge
What is Del Rio's wife's maiden name?
I am of the opinion that her family ties could be the ultimate consideration should he actually have continued/current interest in coaching at LSU.
I am of the opinion that her family ties could be the ultimate consideration should he actually have continued/current interest in coaching at LSU.
Posted on 11/29/07 at 12:16 am to trevolution
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I am of the opinion that her family ties could be the ultimate consideration should he actually have continued/current interest in coaching at LSU.
Family is always the MOST overlooked aspect of every coaching job. If the wifey ain't happy... it ain't happening.
Posted on 11/29/07 at 12:18 am to TheEdge
will he bring Monken back with him? we need to reunite Monken with Crowton and see what a late 90's LaTech offense would look like with LSU horses.
Posted on 11/29/07 at 12:22 am to DarthSabanFredo
if Miles can recruit I doubt JDR would have much problem.
Posted on 11/29/07 at 12:33 am to Elleshoe
Arnsparger was a failed NFL HC coach with no college experience since being a Tulane asst in 1964. He came in after our worst losing season in a quarter century and took us to the Sugar Bowl in his first season. AND he didn't come until
after the NFL season was over. That would be two Sugar Bowls in his three years here.
FWIW Mike S thinks Del Rio is the no. 1 candidate. (cue the Jerry Rice comments)
after the NFL season was over. That would be two Sugar Bowls in his three years here.
FWIW Mike S thinks Del Rio is the no. 1 candidate. (cue the Jerry Rice comments)
This post was edited on 11/29/07 at 12:34 am
Posted on 11/29/07 at 12:37 am to Monkeyboy
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He loves Louisiana (I believe he played or coached for the Saints). His wife also wants to move back to be closer to her family. I was pretty surprised he was interested the last search, but the draw of returning home for his wife and to be closer with his daughter (who I believe already graduated from LSU now) was pretty strong.
Played and coached for the Saints. Wife is from Lafayette, step daughter graduated from LSU. Daughter goes to LSU. And yes, he wants the gig.
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