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re: John Chavis to LSU?
Posted on 12/1/08 at 12:57 pm to LSUStjames
Posted on 12/1/08 at 12:57 pm to LSUStjames
i really hope this isn't true. chavis will run the same soft reactionary D we're all used to but it likely won't be as good as pelini's was. i think this hire will eventually be the downfall of miles if he goes with chavis
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Posted on 12/1/08 at 1:01 pm to Cash
quote:
How would you feel with Chavis as DC and Ed O as DL coach/recruiting coordinator?
Good god that would be my dream scenario!!!
My top choice was Bumpas because I think his defensive scheme is best suited to stop the spread and given that we play Florida every year (and many other teams are implementing versions of the spread) that is certainly something we need to think about. Chavis however is a very good choice and certainly an upgrade from what we've had. He's been very successful at Tennessee even with the dip their program has taken the last 4 years. He's also an "in your face" guy on the sidelines, something I think we need on the defensive side of the ball. I think that's why Pelini was so successful. His scheme sucks, but at least the players play hard for him and respect him because of his "in your face" mentality.
This post was edited on 12/1/08 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 12/1/08 at 1:02 pm to TulaneTigerFan
fyi...
*** 2008 NCAA FBS Total Defense Statistics ***
(Complete through Saturday, November 29th)
From The Sports Network
T O T A L D E F E N S E
Rank Team G Pl Yds Avg TD Ydspg
1. Southern California 11 682 2316 3.40 10 210.55
2. TCU 12 684 2581 3.77 17 215.08
3. Alabama 12 729 2982 4.09 17 248.50
4. Tennessee 12 776 3162 4.07 20 263.50
5. Penn St. 12 759 3167 4.17 17 263.92
6. Virginia Tech 12 673 3294 4.89 25 274.50
7. Florida 12 768 3308 4.31 17 275.67
8. Boston College 12 761 3320 4.36 26 276.67
9. Ohio St. 12 759 3351 4.42 18 279.25
10. Connecticut 11 676 3149 4.66 24 286.27
11. South Carolina 12 738 3467 4.70 30 288.92
12. Iowa 12 796 3474 4.36 16 289.50
13. Florida St. 12 738 3501 4.74 28 291.75
14. South Fla. 11 686 3221 4.70 28 292.82
15. Boise St. 12 838 3534 4.22 19 294.50
16. Clemson 12 800 3538 4.42 23 294.83
16. Mississippi 12 776 3538 4.56 25 294.83
18. Utah 12 761 3551 4.67 26 295.92
19. Wake Forest 12 785 3604 4.59 25 300.33
20. Northern Ill. 12 717 3644 5.08 26 303.67
21. San Jose St. 12 781 3740 4.79 32 311.67
22. Georgia Tech 12 785 3752 4.78 28 312.67
23. Arizona 11 686 3463 5.05 28 314.82
24. Cincinnati 12 815 3789 4.65 27 315.75
24. Miami (Fla.) 12 778 3789 4.87 36 315.75
26. Auburn 12 777 3813 4.91 27 317.75
27. Georgia 12 743 3820 5.14 41 318.33
28. Troy 11 793 3504 4.42 30 318.55
29. Vanderbilt 12 779 3824 4.91 30 318.67
30. Pittsburgh 11 699 3545 5.07 34 322.27
31. Wisconsin 12 779 3868 4.97 37 322.33
32. West Virginia 11 777 3550 4.57 22 322.73
33. Oregon St. 12 743 3880 5.22 35 323.33
34. Rutgers 11 660 3569 5.41 23 324.45
35. UCLA 11 712 3571 5.02 40 324.64
36. California 11 785 3585 4.57 30 325.91
37. LSU 12 781 3918 5.02 39 326.50
38. Kentucky 12 769 3924 5.10 34 327.00
39. Mississippi St. 12 767 3930 5.12 35 327.50
39. Notre Dame 12 789 3930 4.98 32 327.50
41. East Carolina 12 777 3953 5.09 31 329.42
42. Wyoming 12 812 3956 4.87 40 329.67
43. Arizona St. 11 757 3633 4.80 26 330.27
44. Army 11 657 3644 5.55 30 331.27
45. Virginia 12 821 3999 4.87 32 333.2
*** 2008 NCAA FBS Total Defense Statistics ***
(Complete through Saturday, November 29th)
From The Sports Network
T O T A L D E F E N S E
Rank Team G Pl Yds Avg TD Ydspg
1. Southern California 11 682 2316 3.40 10 210.55
2. TCU 12 684 2581 3.77 17 215.08
3. Alabama 12 729 2982 4.09 17 248.50
4. Tennessee 12 776 3162 4.07 20 263.50
5. Penn St. 12 759 3167 4.17 17 263.92
6. Virginia Tech 12 673 3294 4.89 25 274.50
7. Florida 12 768 3308 4.31 17 275.67
8. Boston College 12 761 3320 4.36 26 276.67
9. Ohio St. 12 759 3351 4.42 18 279.25
10. Connecticut 11 676 3149 4.66 24 286.27
11. South Carolina 12 738 3467 4.70 30 288.92
12. Iowa 12 796 3474 4.36 16 289.50
13. Florida St. 12 738 3501 4.74 28 291.75
14. South Fla. 11 686 3221 4.70 28 292.82
15. Boise St. 12 838 3534 4.22 19 294.50
16. Clemson 12 800 3538 4.42 23 294.83
16. Mississippi 12 776 3538 4.56 25 294.83
18. Utah 12 761 3551 4.67 26 295.92
19. Wake Forest 12 785 3604 4.59 25 300.33
20. Northern Ill. 12 717 3644 5.08 26 303.67
21. San Jose St. 12 781 3740 4.79 32 311.67
22. Georgia Tech 12 785 3752 4.78 28 312.67
23. Arizona 11 686 3463 5.05 28 314.82
24. Cincinnati 12 815 3789 4.65 27 315.75
24. Miami (Fla.) 12 778 3789 4.87 36 315.75
26. Auburn 12 777 3813 4.91 27 317.75
27. Georgia 12 743 3820 5.14 41 318.33
28. Troy 11 793 3504 4.42 30 318.55
29. Vanderbilt 12 779 3824 4.91 30 318.67
30. Pittsburgh 11 699 3545 5.07 34 322.27
31. Wisconsin 12 779 3868 4.97 37 322.33
32. West Virginia 11 777 3550 4.57 22 322.73
33. Oregon St. 12 743 3880 5.22 35 323.33
34. Rutgers 11 660 3569 5.41 23 324.45
35. UCLA 11 712 3571 5.02 40 324.64
36. California 11 785 3585 4.57 30 325.91
37. LSU 12 781 3918 5.02 39 326.50
38. Kentucky 12 769 3924 5.10 34 327.00
39. Mississippi St. 12 767 3930 5.12 35 327.50
39. Notre Dame 12 789 3930 4.98 32 327.50
41. East Carolina 12 777 3953 5.09 31 329.42
42. Wyoming 12 812 3956 4.87 40 329.67
43. Arizona St. 11 757 3633 4.80 26 330.27
44. Army 11 657 3644 5.55 30 331.27
45. Virginia 12 821 3999 4.87 32 333.2
Posted on 12/1/08 at 1:05 pm to MarlinMan
yeah, he's 4th this year but look at the rest of his tenure:
2004 #45
2005 #7
2006 #50
2007 #70
2008 #4
nobody would be happy with that. 3 out of his 5 years there he's actually had a worse defense than this years horrible LSU D
2004 #45
2005 #7
2006 #50
2007 #70
2008 #4
nobody would be happy with that. 3 out of his 5 years there he's actually had a worse defense than this years horrible LSU D
Posted on 12/1/08 at 1:10 pm to TulaneTigerFan
Defensive players at Tenn NOT equal to talent coming to LSU. It's not even close. Chavis is well respected and is not the reason why Tenn has gone down. We could definitely do worse and I would be more interested in who his staff will be.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 1:19 pm to MarlinMan
Another way to look at Chavis is to notice how many defensive players UT has sent the NFL. Especially at linebacker which is LSU's biggest weakness, NFL draft wise.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 1:21 pm to Tigerark
John Chavis would not be the ultimate hire, but who would be? Ellis Johnson? Muschamp? At least Chavis would be a legitimate, established SEC defensive coordinator. I'm willing to give such a DC a chance to improve our defense.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 1:25 pm to Hideo Nomo
If we could also bring in Ed O for Dline and a solid DB coach, I would be all for it. He's been a rock at UT for a very long time. While his D has had a few bad years, it also coincides with horrible offenses.
This year #4 with a #100+ offense is just an amazing stat.
Also on Jim Donnan show in ATL a few min ago he said his sources are also saying Chavis to LSU
This year #4 with a #100+ offense is just an amazing stat.
Also on Jim Donnan show in ATL a few min ago he said his sources are also saying Chavis to LSU
Posted on 12/1/08 at 1:30 pm to Hideo Nomo
quote:
John Chavis would not be the ultimate hire, but who would be? Ellis Johnson? Muschamp? At least Chavis would be a legitimate, established SEC defensive coordinator. I'm willing to give such a DC a chance to improve our defense.
I agree with all that.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 1:34 pm to Maximus
quote:
I mean theres more than 3 candidates in the world. There are good guys out there. he has a blank checkbook, he needs to get off his arse and find somebody worth a shite.
:kige:
this guy is similar to pelini only not as good IMO. LSU fans are going to love the mustang package
Posted on 12/1/08 at 1:35 pm to Tigerark
quote:
Defensive players at Tenn NOT equal to talent coming to LSU. It's not even close.
tenn recruits much better than you're giving them credit for, look at the number of NFL players this guy has had on his defenses
Posted on 12/1/08 at 1:36 pm to Cash
Its a "safe" hire like i said. Les could do worse, well he's clearly shown he can do worse. But i think we could do a lot better.
I'd definitely love Bebe as DL/recruiting coordinator yaw yaw though.
I'd definitely love Bebe as DL/recruiting coordinator yaw yaw though.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 1:41 pm to TulaneTigerFan
Yeah where did all of this Tennessee has no talent talk come from all of a sudden? They've been top 10 in recruiting rankings forever and ever.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 1:42 pm to Maximus
They've hauled in a heck of a lot more 5 star players for sure.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 1:49 pm to Maximus
quote:
Yeah where did all of this Tennessee has no talent talk come from all of a sudden? They've been top 10 in recruiting rankings forever and ever.
Tenn recruiting rankings (rivals)
2008 #35
2007 #3
2006 #23
2005 #4
2004 #11
2003 #18
Tenn has had some good classes, but their recruiting is certainly not on the level of LSU, Georgia and Florida this decade.
Team Rankings
This post was edited on 12/1/08 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 12/1/08 at 1:50 pm to TulaneTigerFan
quote:
2004 #45
2005 #7
2006 #50
2007 #70
2008 #4
This year UT is 5-7 and in 2005 UT was 5-6. Can anyone spot Chavis' trend in top defense and record here???
BTW, I've never been that overly impressed with Chavis' defense except for that 2-3 years he had that run with Albert Haynesworth, Leonard Little, Shaun Ellis, Raynoch Thompson, Deon Grant, Terry Fair and Al Wilson and it didn't hurt having Jamal Lewis at RB.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 1:53 pm to Suntiger
quote:
Albert Haynesworth, Leonard Little, Shaun Ellis, Raynoch Thompson, Deon Grant, Terry Fair and Al Wilson
no talent there
Posted on 12/1/08 at 1:54 pm to Tigerark
quote:
Defensive players at Tenn NOT equal to talent coming to LSU. It's not even close.
Huh?
Albert Haynesworth
John Henderson
Jerod Mayo
Justin HArrell
Leonard Little
All NFL guys and they have Eric "The Fifth Dimension" Berry soon to be 1st round NFL draft pick.
Now for comparison, which LSU D players are doing shite in the NFL?
Laron Landry
Randall Gay
Corey Webster
maybe Brady James
Posted on 12/1/08 at 2:01 pm to Suntiger
quote:
This year UT is 5-7 and in 2005 UT was 5-6. Can anyone spot Chavis' trend in top defense and record here???
Defense hasn't been the downfall of Tenn's program. Ask any Tenn fan and they'll tell you no Cutcliffe is the reason Fulmer hit the tailspin.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 2:04 pm to Cash
quote:
Albert Haynesworth, Leonard Little, Shaun Ellis, Raynoch Thompson, Deon Grant, Terry Fair and Al Wilson
no talent there
Forgot about John Henderson (knew I was forgetting somebody
) I was just saying he did really well with awesome defensive talent and a good offense with Manning/Martin/Jamal Lewis/Travis Henry, but doesn't do that well with average talent like he's had the past four to five years, excluding Berry, Mayo and Jesse Mahelona (sp?)
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