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re: my gus malzahn manifesto
Posted on 1/9/11 at 3:44 pm to Angry LLAMA
Posted on 1/9/11 at 3:44 pm to Angry LLAMA
Malzahn would be a catastrophe. He's completely unqualified to helm a major Division 1 program. He's never been a head coach at any college. He has no experience managing a program or dealing with boosters and administrators. He hasn't mastered recruiting. He hasn't vetted and hired assistants. He has no demonstarted capacity to oversee a defense. Six years ago, this guy was walking the linoleum tiled halls of some high school.
No fricking way.
No fricking way.
This post was edited on 1/9/11 at 3:46 pm
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Posted on 1/9/11 at 4:07 pm to Kunka
Auburn might have some probation problems in case you might not have herd.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 4:21 pm to Interception
No that's what you're hoping. At this point in time ZERO has happened to Auburn other than success and the chances of them getting put on probation are about as high as they are low. "Might" means nothing and "Might" doesn't have anything to do with Gus Malzahn. Next............
Posted on 1/9/11 at 4:23 pm to south bama tiger
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I'd take Malzahn before Pelini.
Absolutely.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 4:23 pm to Angry LLAMA
Gus would be an awesome choice. Normally I would say that I want a more well known coach and one that has proven big time D-I experience. However, I got to know Gus in Springdale and watched him coach at Shiloh Christian, Springdale High,then at Arkansas, over to Tulsa because Nutt was a moron and now Auburn. I think he is one of the smartest OC's out there and would make an excellent head coach. The guy has high character as well and can recruit with the best of them. Wherever this guy goes he wins and the school that eventually hires him will have a good HC for many years. Turning down 3 million from Vandy right there tells me he has bigger plans for his future and that he wants to coach a team that can win a NC. Despite the lack of HC experience at the highest level, this guy is a winner that somebody needs and will give him a shot.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 4:28 pm to Earthquake 88
quote:you said:
Earthquake 88
quote:would you say this is true? kinda true? false?
got to know Gus in Springdale
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I have spent some time around the Auburn staff in the work environment. Just my perception, but from what I can tell Gus really isn't a high-energy, driven type of guy. In fact he is kind of quiet and seems to be kind of a nerdy introvert who loves diving deep into schemes and strategy. Chizik is the exact opposite and goes 190mph. Not saying he wouldn't make a great head coach, but from what I observed, he seems like the kind of guy that fits better in the coordinator role.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 4:31 pm to Angry LLAMA
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i think the days of a CEO-type coach are dead. if you look around the country, the elite coaches are experts on their respective side of the ball: saban, meyer, chip kelly, bobby stoops, mcbrown**, tressel, petrino, patterson. all of them either call the plays/ schemes, or are very involved and have their hands all over that side of the ball
HC is still a CEO. Doesn't matter if he is involved in the offense or defense. The main task of a college coach is CEO.
If you want Malzahn for his offense, hire him as coordinator, asst. head coach.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 4:34 pm to Kunka
I will mark this post and remind you that Gus Malzahn had been talking to Maryland even after he signed the extension. He wants to be a HC and would love coaching our talent in Baton Rouge.
Auburn is going down when all the dust settles. Enjoy the moment but remember the title will be stripped from Auburn. It's the shameless arrogance of the Auburn fans that will make that day a great one for SEC fans.
Auburn is going down when all the dust settles. Enjoy the moment but remember the title will be stripped from Auburn. It's the shameless arrogance of the Auburn fans that will make that day a great one for SEC fans.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 4:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:like i said, elite coaches can and do handle one side of the ball. i think he can and wants to be the head guy.
HC is still a CEO. Doesn't matter if he is involved in the offense or defense. The main task of a college coach is CEO.
If you want Malzahn for his offense, hire him as coordinator, asst. head coach.
and if LSU made malzahn the OC, how long before miles is telling him to slow down the hurry up and burn some clock.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 4:53 pm to Angry LLAMA
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would you say this is true? kinda true? false?
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I have spent some time around the Auburn staff in the work environment. Just my perception, but from what I can tell Gus really isn't a high-energy, driven type of guy. In fact he is kind of quiet and seems to be kind of a nerdy introvert who loves diving deep into schemes and strategy. Chizik is the exact opposite and goes 190mph. Not saying he wouldn't make a great head coach, but from what I observed, he seems like the kind of guy that fits better in the coordinator role.
No, he is somewhat quiet at times on a personal level but he is not weird or anything like that. Gus is a real good guy and his players all like him. Once he steps on the practice field or on gameday for that matter then he becomes very involved and full of vigor. Malzahn is one sharp cookie. I don't see him just wanting to settle on being an OC. I think his goals are set way higher than that and wants to run his own show. Oddly enough, Malzahn knows his stuff about coaching defense as well. He's a smart guy on all facets of the game. He may be quite and laid back but when it comes to taking the field that guy is intense and he is a good teacher of the game and can make great coaching adjustments as the game flows along. Gus can coach up a player and has an eye for the type of players that would fit in with the style of ball he wants to play. Gus can run the spread, pistol, pro style, that guy would adjust to whatever type of talent we have just to win. I don't think Miles leaves but if he did, Malzahn would be in my Top 3 to replace Miles.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 4:56 pm to Angry LLAMA
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like i said, elite coaches can and do handle one side of the ball. i think he can and wants to be the head guy.
He will have to grow into the HC position. He has only been around college football programs for 5 years, and two of them are with a team that is possibly tainted.
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nd if LSU made malzahn the OC, how long before miles is telling him to slow down the hurry up and burn some clock.
What has he done that makes you believe he can run a whole program? I am not saying he can't, but his resume doesn't speak of a man ready for one of the top 10 programs in the nation.
HUGE gamble. His best bet is to take on a program with a mediocre history.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 4:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
LSU will hire a guy with experience running a clean program. That's not a commentary on Auburn, it's just that at this point in time, the ability to keep it clean is almost as important as on-field results.
Gary Patterson, Gary Patterson, Gary Patterson
Gary Patterson, Gary Patterson, Gary Patterson
Posted on 1/9/11 at 4:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:great X/Os guy, hopefully we would retain much of the current staff including chavis, wilson and the like. that would take some pressure off as far as hiring an entire staff. hes a good leader, he can recruit, staff semi in place.
What has he done that makes you believe he can run a whole program? I am not saying he can't, but his resume doesn't speak of a man ready for one of the top 10 programs in the nation.
what else is there that everyone is so afraid he wont be able to do??
Posted on 1/9/11 at 5:01 pm to Earthquake 88
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No, he is somewhat quiet at times on a personal level but he is not weird or anything like that. Gus is a real good guy and his players all like him. Once he steps on the practice field or on gameday for that matter then he becomes very involved and full of vigor. Malzahn is one sharp cookie. I don't see him just wanting to settle on being an OC. I think his goals are set way higher than that and wants to run his own show. Oddly enough, Malzahn knows his stuff about coaching defense as well. He's a smart guy on all facets of the game. He may be quite and laid back but when it comes to taking the field that guy is intense and he is a good teacher of the game and can make great coaching adjustments as the game flows along. Gus can coach up a player and has an eye for the type of players that would fit in with the style of ball he wants to play. Gus can run the spread, pistol, pro style, that guy would adjust to whatever type of talent we have just to win. I don't think Miles leaves but if he did, Malzahn would be in my Top 3 to replace Miles.
Malzahn will get the keys to a powerhouse program one day if not LSU, and will be extremely successful. He didn't go to Vandy because he's waiting for the right school to have an opening.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 5:07 pm to Angry LLAMA
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great X/Os guy, hopefully we would retain much of the current staff including chavis, wilson and the like.
So basically you want him as coordinator. I guess your hope in his success would be hiring great a great coaching staff?
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that would take some pressure off as far as hiring an entire staff. hes a good leader, he can recruit, staff semi in place.
You are just guessing that the current staff would stay intact.
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what else is there that everyone is so afraid he wont be able to do??
RUN A PROGRAM. He has never done it, and only been around college programs for 5 years. Hell, he may be awesome but no one knows. Its a huge gamble.
Not even going into the ties at Auburn.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 5:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Its a huge gamble.
That's why he'd be #4 on my list.
If the first three fell through, Malzahn's "risk" would be worth taking.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 5:12 pm to Antonio Moss
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That's why he'd be #4 on my list.
If the first three fell through, Malzahn's "risk" would be worth taking.
Fair enough. I suppose at some point it is a risk worth taking. I can't see the risk worth him being the number one choice.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 5:14 pm to Angry LLAMA
Malzahn will suck arse remember when he was Nutts asst he didn't know how to be a teal player and creid like a little bitch because Nutt woudlt play that sucky QB who transferred to USC. Also he is at Auburn which is dirty stay away from him Far Far away
Posted on 1/9/11 at 5:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:saban handles his defense. patterson calls his defense. petrino call his own plays. i dont know why you are acting like it has to be one or the other. the difference is right now, miles cant run an offense by himself- or he can and its awful. as i described in the beginning, i think the days of a head coach only overseeing the entire program and doing alumni handshakes are over over. with the climate of college football- the way assistants move around all the time- i think its imperative we get a coordinator/head coach combo. i think malzahn can be that guy
So basically you want him as coordinator. I guess your hope in his success would be hiring great a great coaching staff?
quote:theres speculation certain people would be retained- chief, wilson for recruiting purposes. i dont know if its true or not, but i think it would be ideal if we were to tab malzahn as our guy.
ou are just guessing that the current staff would stay intact.
quote:what does this mean? specifics. what are you sooo terrified he wont be able to do? talk to the media? butter up the boosters? les miles has been doing those things. lets stop acting like its rocket science.
RUN A PROGRAM.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 5:16 pm to DeeHorton
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Malzahn will suck arse remember when he was Nutts asst he didn't know how to be a teal player and creid like a little bitch because Nutt woudlt play that sucky QB who transferred to USC. Also he is at Auburn which is dirty stay away from him Far Far away
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