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It doesn’t cost him or you or me anything to let somebody who feels like they want to identify as this or that to do that.


You mean other than the truth?
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good Lord this is both sides.


I don’t know. Specifically to this instance, just about every narrative the left trotted out has been disproven by video evidence and the narrative on the right has been proven much more accurate.

And yet, when you listen to those on the left, even politicians, they simply regurgitate the initial talking points that have been proven false.

What, specifically, is the right “seeing” in this case that isn’t supported by the evidence?
Man, there is a laundry list of shite I don’t want my tax dollars paying for and illegal immigrants is exponentially higher on the list than ICE.
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She may have been a teacher, they cancelled school for a week because ICE raided it and thugged some people and gassed some students. So she would be paid for being off work due to the unnecessary raid.


Is there a limit to the crazy bullshite you will willingly believe?
Because leftism requires constant dishonesty.
Does she did do that everyday after dropping her kid off at school?
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stop with the drama. she in no way was trying to run over him.


The actual video evidence suggests she was. It’s pretty apparent
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Try your narrative with someone else


The initial narrative has fallen. Every presumption put out by the media at the outset is been shown to be wrong.

Good obstructed a legal law enforcement action, she resisted detainment/arrest, she assaulted a law official with her vehicle and the evidence as we see it now suggests that she intended to do so.

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Or was she foolishly posturing and pushing boundaries on the officer thinking confidently to herself that there was no way he would actually do anything. Why would she make such a bad gamble - a gamble that likely contributed to the death of her lover.


History is pretty clear on this. Leftist revolutionary movements are 100% reliant on a large number of naive, poor-decision making individuals to carry out the actual work of the revolution.

This woman and Good were clearly irrational beings with a completely warped sense of their own physical power and status. The idea that things would go sideways and result in dire consequences never once crossed their minds.

They are pawns. Foolish, self-righteousness, irrational pawns, but pawns none the less.
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ICE aren’t a power onto themselves, and him standing in front of the car can be illegal detainment. Ditto for the forcible removal from the car.


ICE has the authority to detain and arrest anyone, including US Citizens, when engaged in obstruction or interference of a legal operation.

The partner even admitted that they were there to interfere with the operation.

Your argument is a nonstarter
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Even if that was her intent what did shooting he do to protect the officer from being hit. To me it serms more punishment then predervation.


Well fortunately for all of us, legal analyses don’t try to predict the alternate futures to determine whether an act is legal or not.

If she drives off and no one else is hit or hurt, okay great.

But what if she hits him and then throws the vehicle on reverse again?

What if she speeds off and fishtails into a bystander or other agent?

There is no way for the officer to know in that moment what the next 15 seconds are going to look like if he doesn’t pull trigger.

And there is no way for us to know either.


ETA: What did the officer know at the time of the shot?

(1) The offender was obstructing a legitimate legal exercise

(2) The offender and her partner made statements showing their intent was to disrupt this exercise

(3) The offender ignored officers commands to get out of the vehicle

(4) The offender drove her vehicle at him and hit him.

Using these undisputed facts, was the officer reasonable in believing that his life or bodily health, or those of others in vicinity, where threaten due to the offenders actions?
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Your religious perspective thoughts on immigration?


None of the major religious text were drafted under a system of free republics and nation-states. Nor were they drafted under a system of fast, easy travel and massive redistribution of wealth under government.

It’s sort of like asking what the Bible says about social media policy.
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Only she can speak to intent


With 100% accuracy, yes

But the circumstantial evidence suggests she intended to hit him.

Regardless, her intent in terms of hitting him/fleeing is irrelevant to a legal analysis of justified use of force.
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If she was going towards him she would have ran him over. She was going right not left or straight. She was obviously trying to flee. Be placed himself in front her car. He did not need to get in front a vehicle.


See here in the problem. You come on here and accuse people of bias and to “look at the facts” and then you give your opinion with either not knowing ten facts or ignoring them.

It just kills your credibility.


The slow down video clearly shows that after she stopped the reverse, she spun her tires directly forward at the officer. She accelerates with her tires pointing straight. The tires spin out, while straight, catch and rotate 2-3 more times while straight. Only then does she start to turn right, right at the moment that she clips the officer with the front driver side bumper (and he was already moving out of the way).

So maybe you give her the benefit of the doubt and say - well maybe she went straight but she was freaking out and just reacted late - okay (and this would not come into play in a legal analysis because her state of mind is irrelevant). But then you see the video from the officer’s phone which shows her staring right at him and hitting a vape pen before slamming in the gas - she doesn’t appear to be freaking out at all.

So again, what facts are out there that I’m not accounting for that changes the analysis?

Open primary systems make zero sense. Why should a person be allowed to vote for a party’s candidate if they don’t belong to the party?
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But she didn't go towards him she went away.


Again, clear video evidence shows this isn’t true
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I think y'all should remove politics from this and look at it factually.


I’ve broken it down frame by frame several times here. I used the legal framework for justified use of lethal force. I’ve taken all the circumstances into account and I keep coming to the same conclusion - this was a clear use of justified lethal force.

I’m not sure what other facts need to be taken into account.
The rhetoric from the leftist politicians had more to do with Good’s death than ICE.

When you encourage crazy people to do reckless things, you can’t be surprised when crazy people do reckless things.
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There’s a ton of footage of these thugs ramming cars, shooting people with rubber bullets point blank, taking out US citizens, throwing people in the backs of vehicles, refusing to identify themselves, etc.


Most of us don't get our news from DU
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“fricking bitch”

Didn’t offer life saving attention afterward.

Wouldn’t allow people nearby to provide medical attention.


And we’re supposed to trust these people? I really don’t think a dismissive “fricking bitch” is what would come out of a normal person’s mouth after putting 3 bullets in someone’s head. Motherfricker belong a NOWHERE near a service weapon.


The lawlessness and zero accoutability of the American left
Probably under protection and they are taking key items and anything that identifies family members.

Poor guy.