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Posted on 1/13/11 at 1:50 pm to
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/13/11 at 1:50 pm to
why ?

75th in passing offense
Posted by Chicot
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2007
1279 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 1:51 pm to
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defense that won Bama the NC last year!!




FIFY


So it was the defense that was why Bama had the the 15th best offense in the nation averaging over 32 points/game and 403 yds/game?

Wow, I didn't know their defense played the entire game like that.
Posted by Kunka
Member since Dec 2010
394 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 1:52 pm to
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I was meaning that the next OC shouldn't be some one that has a history of abandoning the run game....like Leach was at TT


Leach never abandoned the running game. Sure he was a pass first guy but that seemed to work out a hell of a lot better in his tenure than Spike Dykes ground and pound style. The results speak for themselves.
Posted by Chicot
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2007
1279 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 1:56 pm to
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Leach never abandoned the running game.


When compared to Chryst's system, Leach didn't even know that run plays are legal in college football.


I know that is an exaggeration, but I think you know what I was getting at. I think we need a run first guy (like Chryst) not a pass first guy (like Leach).
Posted by Kunka
Member since Dec 2010
394 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 1:58 pm to
Actually Bama had the #22 scoring offense. They had the #42 Total offense in America which is respectable. You're right their scoring defense #2 in America at 11 points a game & their total defense #2 in America 244 ypg had nothing to do with their winning the National Title.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60944 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:00 pm to
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Sure he was a pass first guy but that seemed to work out a hell of a lot better in his tenure than Spike Dykes ground and pound style. The results speak for themselves.


Texas Tech is a lot different than LSU
Posted by Kunka
Member since Dec 2010
394 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:01 pm to
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Texas Tech is a lot different than LSU


Thank you for proving my point even further
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60944 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:03 pm to
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Thank you for proving my point even further


I'm not sure what your point is? Are you saying we should hire Mike Leach as OC?
Posted by Chicot
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2007
1279 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:05 pm to
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Actually Bama had the #22 scoring offense. They had the #42 Total offense in America which is respectable.


Talk about trying to make statistics say what you want....Bama had the #15 offense as for as total points scored and total yardage.

I never said that their defense had nothing to do with them winning the NC. YOu are the one that said that their offense had nothing to do with it. My point is that their offense took them to a NC, just like so many of you on this board seem to think and say that LSU's offense is what has kept them from a NC.
Posted by tigerbill002
Member since May 2008
2323 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:12 pm to
Bama Site

"With 64 more rushing yards from John Clay and 136 more from Montee Ball, Wisconsin, which already has 1,061 yards from James White, would become the first team in FBS history to boast three 1,000-yard running backs in the same season. Yes, three"

"The architects behind this power-packed attack? Offensive coordinator Paul Chryst, offensive line coach Bob Bostad and running backs coach John Settle. And these guys didn't pull off some one-year wonder this season. They've had the Wisconsin offense rolling for multiple seasons now."
Posted by Kunka
Member since Dec 2010
394 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:13 pm to
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Bama had the #15 offense as for as total points scored and total yardage


No they didn't. See the LINK

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just like so many of you on this board seem to think and say that LSU's offense is what has kept them from a NC


LSU's offense is exactly what kept LSU from a shot at a national title this year, last year, 2006.
Posted by Kunka
Member since Dec 2010
394 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:20 pm to
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I'm not sure what your point is?


The point is if a coach like Mike Leach for example can do what he did all those years at a place like Texas Tech, what do you think he could do at an elite program like LSU where you have WR's, RB's, TE's that are 2-3 times the players he had to work with at Texas Tech?
Posted by TexasTigah
Houston, TX
Member since Mar 2006
12183 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:22 pm to


At anyone who thinks Chryst wouldn't be a HOMERUN hire.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60944 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:22 pm to
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LSU's offense is exactly what kept LSU from a shot at a national title this year, last year, 2006


while the offense wasn't good, you can hardly blame them alone for either of our loses this year. They year before we were not a NC caliber team. 2006 it was not the offense just we had a bad game at Auburn, Florida was just as good as we were, you team can win every year. If you thinks its a simple as hire a sling it around OC you are kidding yourself.

Bama won the NC with a strong D and a conservative Offense that pounded people.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:24 pm to
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as long as les miles is our head coach, our offense will be conservative and predictable


I agree with this.

Signed.

The 2007 LSU Tiger offense
Posted by Chicot
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2007
1279 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:25 pm to
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No they didn't. See the LINK


Ummm...they did according to this LINK

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LSU's offense is exactly what kept LSU from a shot at a national title this year, last year, 2006.


You mean in 2006, LSU's 4th ranked defense wasn't enough? I bet if they had had Bama's offense of last year they would have gone to the NC game.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60944 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:26 pm to
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The point is if a coach like Mike Leach for example can do what he did all those years at a place like Texas Tech, what do you think he could do at an elite program like LSU where you have WR's, RB's, TE's that are 2-3 times the players he had to work with at Texas Tech?


He ran a gimmicky offense in a conference that for the most part had bad defenses and usually lost 4 games a year. I don't think they used TE's so what differnce would that make. Mike Leach with the personel LSU has right now is a round hole and a square peg
Posted by Kunka
Member since Dec 2010
394 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:28 pm to
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2006 it was not the offense just we had a bad game at Auburn


The guy calling the plays or the one pulling the strings had a bad game. That was the most pathetically called offensive game I've ever seen. LSU had 3 1st Round draft choices at QB & WR and all LSU did was run the ball into 8-9 man fronts the whole game until the last few mins. Tubberville said after the game was over" I'm glad LSU didn't start throwing the football till the end of the game or we would have never won today"
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:29 pm to
I wouldn't mind getting a guy to implement a Saban-esque offense. In the long term, LA is never short on RB talent and I think Chavis has done a pretty good job in his first couple of years here.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60944 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 2:30 pm to
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Chicot


maybe you can help me out since i think we are more on the same page. Why is throwing the ball 55 times a game so innovative and unpredictable?

I think Bama threw 11 passes in the NC game last year.

LSU should run a pro style offense. It doesn't have to be 2-1 run pass ratio, but we have no need to go run and shot either.
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