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re: Sam Pittman would be a solid hire

Posted on 12/8/19 at 4:31 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/8/19 at 4:31 pm to
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Talent rich state with no school to fight for recruits with

Les miles was an OL coach who took advantage of that too.

It’s the main reason I thought O would succeed.


Didn't think that's what you meant.

I think the coaching model is possible if you're willing to spend money, a la LSU and Clemson's coordinators.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289571 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 4:46 pm to
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I think the coaching model is possible if you're willing to spend money, a la LSU and Clemson's coordinators.


Those models work at those schools cause they pay well and it cones with high exposure

Is Arkansas willing to pay? Cause the profile certainly isn’t there

The lack of interest in that job from anyone of note will also reflect in the hiring of assistants. Just my opinion. An OL coach isn’t moving the needle.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56137 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 4:59 pm to
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I would feel 100x better about it than I did with Morris.


You guys thought Morris was God's answer to recruiting. Now yall hate him. I don't see a position coach without any head coaching experience being successful at Ark. unless 8-4 years are considered successful in the SEC West. Not being hateful, just realistic.
Posted by Coach7
GA
Member since Apr 2016
479 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 5:01 pm to
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But DL coach to HC didn’t when LSU did it?


He had previous HC experience.
Posted by BIGFOOD
Member since Jun 2011
13019 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 5:04 pm to
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. I don't see a position coach without any head coaching experience being successful at Ark.


I don't get this move by Arkansas if this is the move. Why go for a position coach who has never called a game on either side of the ball and let coaches like Drink, Napier, Clark say no? Unless every coach they've approached said no, and I mean every one, then this move makes no sense.
Posted by This Little Piggy
Member since Nov 2019
462 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 5:25 pm to
Why? How many times do we have to point to O and Dabo?

Can we recruit LSU type players? Yes but not as a whole. We're at this point, just trying to win one damn SEC game.

Pittman can build the rest with the right staff. He will be given time to do so.

And yes, AR can and will pay.
This post was edited on 12/8/19 at 5:27 pm
Posted by Bayouhillbilly1
Ruston, LA
Member since Sep 2018
145 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 5:26 pm to
Because recruiting is more important that scheme. We need a proven recruiter. Sam Pittman is that.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289571 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:45 pm to
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nd yes, AR can and will pay.


But your coach is Sam Pittman
Posted by Ray Penpillage
Western Slope
Member since Nov 2010
9409 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:49 pm to
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unless 8-4 years are considered successful


SOLD!!!
Posted by This Little Piggy
Member since Nov 2019
462 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:50 pm to
And? He's a damn good coach. We'll see if he can get a great staff and let them do their jobs.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289571 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:52 pm to
You can’t say they will pay if they hire a nobody as the HC
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
26362 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 8:01 pm to
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I don't get this move by Arkansas if this is the move. Why go for a position coach who has never called a game on either side of the ball and let coaches like Drink, Napier, Clark say no? Unless every coach they've approached said no, and I mean every one, then this move makes no sense.


Basically, every coach worth a crap that interviewed with them declined the job, or simply wasn't wanted by the boosters.
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 8:24 pm to
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Those models work at those schools cause they pay well and it cones with high exposure Is Arkansas willing to pay? Cause the profile certainly isn’t there The lack of interest in that job from anyone of note will also reflect in the hiring of assistants. Just my opinion. An OL coach isn’t moving the needle.

Don’t forget that the last HC was fired before finishing his second season. Not a good look when trying to convince a proven HC. Maybe not coordinators either.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
32228 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 8:33 pm to
Not saying it's gonna work at all, but LSU hired a DL coach who completely failed as a head coach prior, and he has LSU as the #1 team in the country. Just saying.
Posted by This Little Piggy
Member since Nov 2019
462 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 8:40 pm to
Coach O wasn't a much bigger name. Same with Dabo.
Posted by This Little Piggy
Member since Nov 2019
462 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 8:41 pm to
My God. Look what Morris did. And tell me he didn't deserve to be fired on the fricking spot.
Posted by King
Deep in the backwoods
Member since Sep 2008
18673 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 8:53 pm to
I'd jack off to 8-4 again
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
13995 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:51 am to
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will be Orgeron at Ole miss


I'm just happy to see 1st, 2nd, and 3rd and Chavis leaving.

Pittman will not be worse than Chad. I'm certain of that. Dude will rebuild the OL and we will play physical football again. After Pittman said adios to Bert our OL went to shite and it still hasn't recovered.

Besides, if we would have hired Kiffen, Norvell, Drink, etc. we still would have all the rantards telling us it was a shitty hire.
Posted by KingDaddyRabbit
Angola State Prison
Member since Oct 2019
1124 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 3:04 am to
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who completely failed as a head coach prior, and he has LSU as the #1 team in the country. Just saying.


True Ed O couldn't win previously at Ole Miss. However, his former assistants at Ole Miss have said that no one could have won with those players that Ed O inherited from his predecessor.

Not to mention, that Ed O's tenure wasn't all bad while at Ole Miss, as ED O's replacement, Houston Nutt, was able to win immediately with the recruits that Ed O brought to Ole Miss.

However, because Houston Nutt was a piss-poor recruiter, as soon as Ed O's players all graduated, Houston Nutt started losing before getting fired by Ole Miss himself.

In fact, Hugh Freeze has said when he was still the head coach at Ole Miss that had the Ole Miss administration not rushed so fast to remove Ed O before the final year of his four-year contract, that in all likelihood Ed O would still be the head coach at Ole Miss today.

Anyway, the Ole Miss job turned out to be a great learning experience for Ed O and today he is absolutely one of the premier head football coaches in college football at LSU today. Geaux tigers!!!


Posted by KingDaddyRabbit
Angola State Prison
Member since Oct 2019
1124 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 3:08 am to
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Coach O wasn't a much bigger name.


But Ed O had proven he could get the job done by being an interim head coach at first USC and then subsequently at LSU, and everyone knew he could recruit his arse off. Cause he was largely responsible for all of those outstanding recruiting classes at USC under Pete Carroll.
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