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re: THANK GOD, LSU didn't hire Tom Herman

Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:19 pm to
Posted by 7nette
Member since Nov 2015
4909 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:19 pm to
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but I went the other way and wound up in Louisiana.


This perfectly explains your stance on Tom Herman. Thanks.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:19 pm to
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you are wrong about Herman. He is the real deal


Losing to 3 teams with less talent in your second year on the job usually determines that a coach is the real deal or not. Glad you see through this to determine his greatness.
Posted by SeekGreatness
Member since Nov 2015
3792 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:20 pm to
The only time Orgeron ever coached a team that was all his players was at Ole Miss. Fact.

So that's the win/loss record you can use if you want to go by coaches "when coaching their own players."
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 8:22 pm
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
6349 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:22 pm to
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Only problem is he wasn't playing against LSU or Alabama or Florida. He was playing and losing to Navy, SMU and Memphis. BIG DIFFERENCE !!!


O lost to Vandy and Wyoming. In back to back weeks.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:22 pm to
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Resumes please, thanks.


You look it up. What the frick you think I am your lacky? I provided a link, if you can't interpret the information that's on you.

Herman has no resume besides two only years and his second year was much worse than his first.
Posted by sheek
New Albany, OH
Member since Sep 2007
44138 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:23 pm to
Dude. He was at Houston. You will have inevitable setups back due to lack of depth. You are trying to grasp at straws to make a point and you sound a lot like the O backers justifying the hire for O. It's all hugs here on the 40 acres. Texas is talking a major class coming up. He will win the big 12 and get into the playoffs . The media will also make its push. It's texas baby as they will say around here in the atx.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120939 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:23 pm to
Herman won more games last year than O did in three at Ole Miss
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:23 pm to
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O lost to Vandy and Wyoming. In back to back weeks.


At USC or LSU? Did this ineptness happen within the last five years like Herman's?
Posted by SeekGreatness
Member since Nov 2015
3792 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:25 pm to
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At USC or LSU? Did this ineptness happen within the last five years like Herman's?


The LSU stint was with Les' players. And Ensminger/Aranda did the coaching. Orgeron said so himself.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 8:30 pm
Posted by sheek
New Albany, OH
Member since Sep 2007
44138 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:26 pm to
Quit trying to split hairs to justify your decision to hire O over Herman. Herman is the real deal . I know he wasn't ever coming here, but he clearly had the better resume and would have loved them in Baton Rouge vs here in Austin.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:28 pm to
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Herman won more games last year than O did in three at Ole Miss



lolz
Posted by sheek
New Albany, OH
Member since Sep 2007
44138 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:29 pm to
in year 3 at lsu, Saban had a major setback and got his arse smoked. Lost to Bama what 32-0. Yet he is the GOAT.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:29 pm to
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Dude. He was at Houston. You will have inevitable setups back due to lack of depth. You are trying to grasp at straws to make a point and you sound a lot like the O backers justifying the hire for O


This isn't a celebration of hiring O, it is a relief of not hiring Herman. Yes, he was at Houston - losing to UCONN, Navy, SMU and Memphis. Those teams don't have any more depth than Houston and actually have worse depth.

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It's all hugs here on the 40 acres


Just like when Charlie Strong was hired. Charlie was considered a very good coach at Louisville before going to Texas.

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He will win the big 12 and get into the playoffs


Yeah, right. The B12 his first year, downhill and fired after three after that.

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The media will also make its push. It's texas baby as they will say around here in the atx.


Makes about as much sense as your other statement quoted right above this one.


Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:32 pm to
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The LSU stint was with Les' players. And Ensminger/Aranda did the coaching. Orgeron said so himself.



Yet people try to blame the Bama and Florida losses on O.

Herman, unlike O who had been on the job for a matter of weeks, in his second year lost to three less talented teams and got blown out by SMU.
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
7886 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:33 pm to
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Herman won more games last year than O did in three at Ole Miss


I can understand being hopeful that by some miracle O pans out. But now we get to hear how he's better than Herman, and the equal of Belichick and Carroll.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:33 pm to
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Herman is the real deal .


Remains to be seen. He has never coached a team with his own players. Being worse your second year seems to say otherwise anyway.
Posted by sheek
New Albany, OH
Member since Sep 2007
44138 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:33 pm to
He is much better than strong. Strong Was a settlement hire. Texas didn't want him but they courted Saban to the point to where they didn't have much of a choice. I am a lsu grad but also a UT grad. I follow UT closely.. people were pissed about the Strong hire and I am not just talking the oil and gas baws, even the TX ex pseudo yuppie hipsters were too. They have been eyeing Herman since he got to Houston. They found their guy
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:34 pm to
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Just like when Charlie Strong was hired. Charlie was considered a very good coach at Louisville before going to Texas.



strong was like their 6th choice
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:44 pm to
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He is much better than strong.


Total BS like your other statements. Strong coached four years at Louisville. His last two years he was 11-2 and 12-1 - better than Herman's last and only two years as head coach.

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Strong Was a settlement hire


Who the frick cares. I don't give a shite about the Texas Longhorn football program.

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I am a lsu grad but also a UT grad


Who the frick cares. I don't give a shite about the Texas Longhorn football program or you.

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They have been eyeing Herman since he got to Houston. They found their guy


Congrat-u-fricking-lations, glad you have him. You need to start your own thread about your joy of having Herman as HC of your team. This thread is about my happiness of him NOT being the HC at LSU.




Posted by sheek
New Albany, OH
Member since Sep 2007
44138 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:45 pm to
People seeem to forget about when they compare strong to Herman. There was a joke going around Austin if anyone wants the UT Job just call UT.
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