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Posted on 12/15/08 at 2:37 pm to ffishstik
quote:
Willingham at UW (I didn't think this when they hired him
I did. A big part of UW falling off was their recruiting, and Ty is NOT a good recruiter. I figured that wasn't gonna work.
Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:11 pm to biglego
1) Bill Stewart
2) Larry Coker
3) Malleveto
4) Willingham(UW version)
5) Chizik
6) Charlie Weis
7) Dave Wanstedt
8) Mike Sherman
9) Tepper
10) RR
2) Larry Coker
3) Malleveto
4) Willingham(UW version)
5) Chizik
6) Charlie Weis
7) Dave Wanstedt
8) Mike Sherman
9) Tepper
10) RR
Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:16 pm to LSUtigahs28
More than 10 but
Joe Dean
Curly
Mike Departure
Gerry D
Joe Dean
Curly
Mike Departure
Gerry D
Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:17 pm to Linkovich
Les Miles, LSU
I kid, I kid
I kid, I kid
Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:18 pm to Linkovich
NCAA (big league ball)
Charlie Weiss - ND
Mike Price - Alabama
Mike Stoops -Arizona
Tyrone Willingham - Washington (he was too damaged by the Notre Dame debacle. I still think he's a good coach, just needs the right situation.)
Dennis Franchione - aTm
* Too early to tell - Randy Shannon - Miami(FL), Mike Sherman - aTm, and Rich Rodriquez - Michigan (and shows me how much I know, I applauded both Shannon and Sherman of those hires, as well as the Stoops and Willingham hires above)
NFL - Lane Kiffin - OAK, Nick Saban - MIA, Bobby Petrino - ATL and Steve Spurrier - WAS
***Note to NFL owners - NCAA head coaching skills do not necessarily translate to your league - they are similar products on the surface, but don't overspend in elevating a coach.
Charlie Weiss - ND
Mike Price - Alabama
Mike Stoops -Arizona
Tyrone Willingham - Washington (he was too damaged by the Notre Dame debacle. I still think he's a good coach, just needs the right situation.)
Dennis Franchione - aTm
* Too early to tell - Randy Shannon - Miami(FL), Mike Sherman - aTm, and Rich Rodriquez - Michigan (and shows me how much I know, I applauded both Shannon and Sherman of those hires, as well as the Stoops and Willingham hires above)
NFL - Lane Kiffin - OAK, Nick Saban - MIA, Bobby Petrino - ATL and Steve Spurrier - WAS
***Note to NFL owners - NCAA head coaching skills do not necessarily translate to your league - they are similar products on the surface, but don't overspend in elevating a coach.
Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:22 pm to ehidal1
quote:
Ed Orgeron
Good catch. I made my list before I saw yours.
quote:
Larry Coker
Okay, "hire that didn't work out the way the school wanted" doesn't necessarily equate to "Top 10", though I did look at the Coker situation. 60-15? Didn't have a losing season? Worst hire in 10 years? 6 straight bowl appearances, going 4-2 in those? In 6 seasons, a BCS and three conference championships. Really? The worst in 10 years?
Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:24 pm to LSUtigahs28
quote:
7) Dave Wanstedt
I dunno, his teams at Pitt have been ok. Pretty good this year, usually have good defense. Just needs a new OC I think.
Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:26 pm to SaintLSUnAtl
quote:
1. George O'Leary at Notre Dame
And I am focusing solely on HCs, so good catch. (If I add O'Leary, and there's room, I will have the last 3 Notre Dame coaches, though I don't count ND's hiring of Willingham. He gets charged to Washington.)
Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:33 pm to glaucon
quote:
Turner Gill. Fairly ironic miss considering the circumstances of the original post.
Randy Shannon Miami(FL), who I have as an "Too Early to Tell" on my list. And Kevin Sumlin at Houston.
There were 6 at the beginning of the season. With Prince, Willingham and Croom being the other three. I would officially have to say that Shannon is edging very closely to the hotseat. Sumlin went 7-5 this year, and Gill's stock is rising in upstate NY.
Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:37 pm to Linkovich
dave clawson at tennessee was a major step down from cutcliffe
Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:37 pm to clamdip
Lane Kiffin, Oakland
Posted on 12/15/08 at 11:31 pm to Paul Allen
Past seasons:
Stan Brock, Army
John Bunting, UNC
Ed Orgeron, Ole Miss
Al Groh, Virginia (and they keep extending him)
Ty Willingham, Washington
Mike Sherman, aTm
Ted Roof, Duke
Mike Shula, Alabama
Ron Prince, Kansas State
Greg Robinson, Syracuse
This year:
Gene Chizik, Auburn
Dabo Swinney, Clemson
Doug Marrone, Syracuse
Stan Brock, Army
John Bunting, UNC
Ed Orgeron, Ole Miss
Al Groh, Virginia (and they keep extending him)
Ty Willingham, Washington
Mike Sherman, aTm
Ted Roof, Duke
Mike Shula, Alabama
Ron Prince, Kansas State
Greg Robinson, Syracuse
This year:
Gene Chizik, Auburn
Dabo Swinney, Clemson
Doug Marrone, Syracuse
Posted on 12/15/08 at 11:48 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:
NFL - Lane Kiffin - OAK, Nick Saban - MIA, Bobby Petrino - ATL and Steve Spurrier - WAS
For NFL, I could give a REALLY long list. Your list is a good start (Petrino was horrible). Add Ditka for the Saints. And Carl Smith id we're talking coordinators too.
Posted on 12/16/08 at 12:00 am to drexyl
quote:
charlie weis
Knew that was coming
Posted on 12/16/08 at 6:59 am to Linkovich
I'm suprised Callahan and Franchione didnt make everyone's list. Granted Weis, Willingham and Chiznik have fared very poorly, but Wash and Iowa St were pretty bad beforehand anyway. Waiching Callahan and Fran take two fairly good programs and reduce them to rubbish from the inside-out is the real travesty. I'd say if Weis hasnt officialy crossed onto that realm, he's fairly close by now.
Posted on 12/16/08 at 9:25 am to Uncle Stu
I was really surprised noone mentioned John Bunting.
Hiring a coaches who has never been a coordinator is usually a recipe for disaster. John Bunting, Chuck Amato, Ed Orgeron.
Hiring a coaches who has never been a coordinator is usually a recipe for disaster. John Bunting, Chuck Amato, Ed Orgeron.
Posted on 12/16/08 at 9:38 am to glaucon
kirk feretz(sp)? makes a ridiculous amount of money for what?
Posted on 12/16/08 at 9:38 am to dreaux
quote:
kirk feretz(sp)? makes a ridiculous amount of money for what?
Well, he did beat somebody making alot more then him right now.
Posted on 12/16/08 at 10:16 am to GoldenTornado
i don't see how you can count a hire that has yet to produce any results as a top 10 worst hire....of course we can provide opinions on the hire and speculate, but can it really be considered one of the worst hires yet?
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