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re: What OC fits our style of recruting, and runs Pro Style???
Posted on 12/29/10 at 10:58 am to Angry LLAMA
Posted on 12/29/10 at 10:58 am to Angry LLAMA
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why do people want pro style so bad?
a pro-style offense with the right personnel is still the hardest offense to stop (and our personnel is a pro-style group)
and as an offense it has stood the test of time
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Posted on 12/29/10 at 11:01 am to OBUDan
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Both run the spread?
yeah OU and UT ran the spread in 08-09 (UT also had some spread option)
Posted on 12/29/10 at 11:03 am to Angry LLAMA
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adapt or get left behind.
LSU currently runs a spread/spread-option offense...or at least crowton attempts to.
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you know what i like more than tradition? winning football games
well when LSU gets the best player in CFB to play QB, and that QB fits the spread option, i'll be mad if we don't run that offense
go through those years...
2005: vince young
2008: tebow
2010: newton
there is a much higher correlation with having an amazing QB WITH that offense than the offense iteslf
Posted on 12/29/10 at 11:04 am to Angry LLAMA
Spread may work for some programs sure, but for LSU I think we build off a strong run game along with big plays from physical, big WR's. Metts a pocket passer that could manage the Pro-Style perfectly. With the stud RB's coming up we need to run the ball. These discussions is why fans love college football. Exciting, entertaining, and unpredictable at times. 
Posted on 12/29/10 at 11:05 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:well, we can cross out fingers that one day leinert, bush, and lendale white fall in out lap so we can go on an unprecedented run, or we can get more with less- which is what the spread does. i dont want the planets to have to align before our offense is any good again.....
a pro-style offense with the right personnel is still the hardest offense to stop
This post was edited on 12/29/10 at 11:06 am
Posted on 12/29/10 at 11:07 am to SlowFlowPro
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yeah OU and UT ran the spread in 08-09 (UT also had some spread option)
I know, that's why I was wondering why he listed them as "bowl losers" and lumped them in with Ohio State.
Posted on 12/29/10 at 11:09 am to MachineTiger
quote:you can do all this from the spread
but for LSU I think we build off a strong run game along with big plays from physical, big WR'
i just dont understand why we dont want to use coaching to get an advantage on offense. use formations, motion, and some running QB to get an advantage. its like everyone just wants to put pro-style QBs into the NFL over winning football games
Posted on 12/29/10 at 11:10 am to Angry LLAMA
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we can cross out fingers that one day leinert, bush, and lendale white fall in out lap
you don't need these. bama won it all with mceloy, ingram, and jones. LSU has comparable players to these players
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or we can get more with less- which is what the spread does
LSU runs teh spread and spread option already, brotha
seems like with LSU, we get less from more
and no spread team has really won a title, and none have arguably done so since OU in 2000 (and i'd love to hear an argument as to how their offense won them that title)
a few spread option teams have won titles, but all had super duper elite QBs (young, tebow, newton this year possibly) other than UF 2006 (who had the #1 defense in the country).
LSU and more of a pro-style attack won it all in 2003 and 2007 with 2 so-so QBs at the helm. Bama did it in 2008 as well. want to get more from less? seems like pro-style is the way to do so and the spread option relies on super rare/elite talent
Posted on 12/29/10 at 11:11 am to OBUDan
quote:b/c they lost, but still run the spread. making my point- the best 2 teams every year seem to run the spread.quote:I know, that's why I was wondering why he listed them as "bowl losers" and lumped them in with Ohio State.
yeah OU and UT ran the spread in 08-09 (UT also had some spread option)
Posted on 12/29/10 at 11:11 am to Angry LLAMA
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i just dont understand why we dont want to use coaching to get an advantage on offense. use formations, motion, and some running QB to get an advantage
that's what LSU has been trying to do in 2009 and 2010. where have you been?
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its like everyone just wants to put pro-style QBs into the NFL over winning football games
yeah because we use JJ like such a pro style QB
Posted on 12/29/10 at 11:15 am to SlowFlowPro
My personal stance is that getting guys to the league is one of the top recruiting pitches you can make.
In the current NFL, most teams run Pro-Style, though some Spread influences are being infused.
That's why I personally like the Pro-Style offense... but I'd be happy with any type of system that actually functions.
In the current NFL, most teams run Pro-Style, though some Spread influences are being infused.
That's why I personally like the Pro-Style offense... but I'd be happy with any type of system that actually functions.
Posted on 12/29/10 at 11:15 am to SlowFlowPro
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LSU currently runs a spread/spread-option offense
I think it's more pro style with some spread and option stuff thrown in.
Posted on 12/29/10 at 11:16 am to ATLTiger
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I think it's more pro style with some spread and option stuff thrown in.
i'll rephrase
we run an offense that incorporates a ton of the beloved spread and spread option, and it's still shite
Posted on 12/29/10 at 11:19 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:b/c crowton is fricking terrible. dont let the bottom quarter of the coaching profession ruin the good name of the people who know what they are doing.
LSU runs teh spread and spread option already, brotha
seems like with LSU, we get less from more
Posted on 12/29/10 at 11:20 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:crowton mutha fricka. hes terrible
that's what LSU has been trying to do in 2009 and 2010. where have you been?
Posted on 12/29/10 at 11:24 am to Angry LLAMA
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b/c crowton is fricking terrible
and we don't have the personnel
not everybody can pluck a 5 star JUCO who happens to be the best player in the country
JJ, Lee, and Mett are all pocket passers. JJ has speed, and has improve his running a lot, but he's not a running QB
the only other option would be shep, and i think we all know that's likely a disaster (size, throwing inability)
Posted on 12/29/10 at 11:24 am to ATLTiger
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quote:
LSU currently runs a spread/spread-option offense
I think it's more pro style with some spread and option stuff thrown in.
I think it's more of a big pile of Joker horseshite. I honestly think Gary is up their pulling a fricking slot machine lever to figure it out.
or when the chicken is dancing
Posted on 12/29/10 at 11:28 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:its amazing what some coaching does. check 2009 dickface chris todd. he sucked before malzahn got there, turned it into the the #14 offense in the land. coaching. and QB mentoring. crowton knows neither
and we don't have the personnel
not everybody can pluck a 5 star JUCO who happens to be the best player in the country
JJ, Lee, and Mett are all pocket passers. JJ has speed, and has improve his running a lot, but he's not a running QB
the only other option would be shep, and i think we all know that's likely a disaster (size, throwing inability)
Posted on 12/29/10 at 11:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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it's still shite
which is the bottom line. to be honest, I don't have a problem with our playbook, it's the playcalling/ personnel use. we shouldn't have been this bad. but I digress...
give me Steve Logan, Borges, Whipple, or Friedgen.
Posted on 12/29/10 at 11:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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JJ, Lee, and Mett are all pocket passers. JJ has speed, and has improve his running a lot, but he's not a running QB
I'm not sure what the hell JJ is at this point. to be a pocket passer, you actually have to be able to pass. let's say shitty pocket passer.
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