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re: Who declines being the top paid football coach in College Football
Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:27 pm to Prominentwon
Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:27 pm to Prominentwon
Money and job security go hand n hand.
Yeah LSU seems ready to back up the truck to get their guy but they also just proved they’ll fire you less than 2 seasons after you give them their best season ever.
LR would have to totally crash a season for OU to fire him
Yeah LSU seems ready to back up the truck to get their guy but they also just proved they’ll fire you less than 2 seasons after you give them their best season ever.
LR would have to totally crash a season for OU to fire him
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Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:29 pm to Chicken
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Riley will likely get close to $10M to stay at OU...when you are making that much per year, is an extra $2M a year worth uprooting your family from a place you have lived for 7 years?
With all due respect Chicken….
How do you know it’s only an additional $2M a year?
And you speak as if we haven’t gone after him yet.
Maybe you know something we don’t know.
I would still like the other poster or you to show the math that $2.5M doesn’t matter.
7 years is a blink of the eye in a coaching life
And it’s not like he’s from Oklahoma
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:36 pm to dbuchanon
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Money and job security go hand n hand.
Yeah LSU seems ready to back up the truck to get their guy but they also just proved they’ll fire you less than 2 seasons after you give them their best season ever.
LR would have to totally crash a season for OU to fire him
That’s silly
He can win 10 games a year at LSU and be in the running for the playoffs every year
With an actual chance of winning.
Job security as long as he wants.
If in fact he is afraid of that
Then we don’t want him.
And I’m sure Scott Woodward has already figured that out.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:56 pm to Rohan Gravy
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With all due respect Chicken….
How do you know it’s only an additional $2M a year?
And you speak as if we haven’t gone after him yet.
Maybe you know something we don’t know.
I would still like the other poster or you to show the math that $2.5M doesn’t matter.
7 years is a blink of the eye in a coaching life
And it’s not like he’s from Oklahoma
Well let's discuss without the strawmen. No one ever said that $2.5m difference in salary doesn't matter, or at least I never said that.
If you make $100k and you're offered a raise of $2.5m, big deal right? Huge deal, I'm leaving for any job out there, I would shovel shite all day for that raise.
If you make $2.5m and offered a raise of $2.5m, still a huge raise, but you are shoveling shite for that? I'm probably not. I would go somewhere that's not as good of a fit for me if I had to.
If you make $7m and are offered a raise of $2.5, am I leaving for a job that I don't see as a good fit for that? It depends, it's not an automatic yes like it was when I was making $100k.
If it were a 25x raise what I was making like in the first scenario, then I'm back to shoveling shite for that salary.
This idea that a $2.5m raise is worth leaving your job regardless of what you're making now just doesn't hold water. What he's making now (or what we think OU will bump him up to) matters.
If you make $15m are you leaving for $17.5 regardless of the job? $30m you leaving for $32.5? At some point, the percentage of the raise is not sufficient enough to warrant a move solely for financial reasons.
And try to remember that every coach out there doesn't see LSU as the center of the CFB universe.
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:06 pm to Prominentwon
Prob a guy that’s already making bank and thinking to themselves these people just fired a fricking coach who’s 2 yrs removed from a perfect season
Think im good where I’m at
Think im good where I’m at
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:08 pm to Goldrush25
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Well let's discuss without the strawmen. No one ever said that $2.5m difference in salary doesn't matter, or at least I never said that.
So your first comment is a strawman.
Really
Just look at the comments on this
thread.
2.5 x 8 = $20M
In simple arithmetic
Not counting compounding investment income.
But
I’m not good at math
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:19 pm to Rohan Gravy
Well I was the one you addressed and I didn't say that money doesn't matter. In fact I started off by saying I didn't want to trivialize the fact that he'd be making that much more.
So do you think a $2.5m/year raise warrants a job change in every scenario? If not at what point should a raise not be the primary motivation for taking the new job?
So do you think a $2.5m/year raise warrants a job change in every scenario? If not at what point should a raise not be the primary motivation for taking the new job?
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:39 pm to Goldrush25
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So do you think a $2.5m/year raise warrants a job change in every scenario? If not at what point should a raise not be the primary motivation for taking the new job?
No
I didn’t say that “in every scenario”
And don’t put words in my mouth
Thank you
What I’m saying is it makes a huge difference considering the entire package.
Like I did say….
If he’s not interested in winning National Championships
The we don’t want him.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:49 pm to Rohan Gravy
How much money does it take to leave players you evaluated and recruited for those that you didn't? How much to leave administration you know for one you don't?
LSU is a great job - but it's not risk proof (looking at the time prior to Saban as an example). Looking around - fit may mean more than anything. Look at Florida, Texas, Miami, Nebraska, Michigan (except this year). Top jobs that have had loosing coaches.
Riley has won alot of games in the big12. He may or may not win in the SEC...but he does know who he'll play with at OU. How much money to take that chance?
LSU is a great job - but it's not risk proof (looking at the time prior to Saban as an example). Looking around - fit may mean more than anything. Look at Florida, Texas, Miami, Nebraska, Michigan (except this year). Top jobs that have had loosing coaches.
Riley has won alot of games in the big12. He may or may not win in the SEC...but he does know who he'll play with at OU. How much money to take that chance?
Posted on 11/18/21 at 5:00 pm to Deactived
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Thats a damn good follow up post to mine
Thanks for that, but thanks for your post to follow up on. I’ve made similar posts that have been downvoted into oblivion, but nobody has actually really challenged it.
I’ve used this analogy: let’s say there’s something like a Harvard School for College Football Head Coaches. And the guy who finishes top of his class gets to pick whatever job is open that year. If LSU, Oklahoma, and USC are all open, and the guy has no ties to any, of course he’d pick the LSU job. THAT’s where it’s a top 5 job. In a vacuum.
Or if Fickell was to choose from OU and LSU—again, no brainer—it’s LSU. If a guy with no roots and no ties to anywhere could choose any job in America, Bama, Ohio State, and Georgia might be the only 2 schools they’d pick over LSU. But Riley’s situation is not like that, his choice is not being made in a vacuum. There are so many other things that matter when you’ve been at a place flor 7 years—at a historical blueblood—mainly all the relationships you, your wife, and your kids have cultivated.
And like I’ve said too, I WANT Riley. I think he’d kill it here. I just don’t think it makes sense for him unless the money difference is just so absolutely crazy that he can’t say no. But even if OU doesn’t match, I think they’ll get close enough to where money won’t matter, but all the other things will. And I just think they’ll eventually outweigh the advantages LSU offers, and he’ll wind up staying in Norman.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 5:36 pm to el dudarino
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How much to leave administration you know for one you don't?
You can’t be serious.
The answer is Scott Woodward
I would think you knew who he was and his resume.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 5:48 pm to Hot Carl
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quote:
Thats a damn good follow up post to mine
Thanks for that, but thanks for your post to follow up on.
Holy arse Kissing Batman!
Posted on 11/18/21 at 6:42 pm to el dudarino
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Riley has won alot of games in the big12. He may or may not win in the SEC...but he does know who he'll play with at OU. How much money to take that chance?
Like I said before
If this is his thought process
Then we don’t want him.
Scott Woodward already knows at this point.
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