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Posted on 12/12/16 at 4:00 pm to LSU2THEMAX
Dorean and him didn't see eye to eye. Dorean is an idiot.
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 4:08 pm to Louisianimal83
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It doesn't matter. He was a finalist for some damn award. That's all everyone is thinking about.
That "some damn award" is only the Browles award, given to the top assistant coach every year. But who would care about that, right? So, Canada is fired in January, takes over the offense at a new school and ased on what he does there in one season is immediately considered one of the top five assistant coaches in the country? Sounds to me like Doeren was either trying desperately to save his job by shaking up his staff or doesn't have a clue. I think if you look at the body of Canada's work, you can't help but be impressed.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 4:32 pm to penman
This is my first time posting on this forum. NC State Alum and secondary Tiger fan by adoption. While Matt Canada is not an awful option at OC, there were some major hangups at NC State. The shifty short passing game and gimmicks are awesome and were effective against many inferior opponents but Canada's inability (with a mid round NFL draftee Brisette) to get the ball to WR's/TE's down the field and over the middle parts of tbe field was a major issue. We were essentially a good run team and good in the flats. Low turnovers and good time of possession and really good against teams we could control the LOS. But anytime we faced 3rd and 8+ it felt like and insurmountable down and distance. Ultimately I don't think Doeren was pleased with a gameplan or two down the stretch which underutilized some of the key guys in defeat and he had to do something. Canada was the better of our two coordinators but there were certainly a lot of people who were glad to see him go.
In my opinion, you're not gonna be bale to play toe to toe with the Gumps with a Mickey Mouse O. You need some creativity and some big boy schemes to attack all areas of the field against the better teams. LSU is gonna push around 75% of opponents anyway. This hire has to be about the other 25% and I pray they look elsewhere before Canada.
In my opinion, you're not gonna be bale to play toe to toe with the Gumps with a Mickey Mouse O. You need some creativity and some big boy schemes to attack all areas of the field against the better teams. LSU is gonna push around 75% of opponents anyway. This hire has to be about the other 25% and I pray they look elsewhere before Canada.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 4:37 pm to Walnut
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He didn't have a binder
can we end this binder nonesense ?
Posted on 12/12/16 at 4:39 pm to ddeon
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This is my first time posting on this forum. NC State Alum and secondary Tiger fan by adoption. While Matt Canada is not an awful option at OC, there were some major hangups at NC State. The shifty short passing game and gimmicks are awesome and were effective against many inferior opponents but Canada's inability (with a mid round NFL draftee Brisette) to get the ball to WR's/TE's down the field and over the middle parts of tbe field was a major issue. We were essentially a good run team and good in the flats. Low turnovers and good time of possession and really good against teams we could control the LOS. But anytime we faced 3rd and 8+ it felt like and insurmountable down and distance. Ultimately I don't think Doeren was pleased with a gameplan or two down the stretch which underutilized some of the key guys in defeat and he had to do something. Canada was the better of our two coordinators but there were certainly a lot of people who were glad to see him go.
In my opinion, you're not gonna be bale to play toe to toe with the Gumps with a Mickey Mouse O. You need some creativity and some big boy schemes to attack all areas of the field against the better teams. LSU is gonna push around 75% of opponents anyway. This hire has to be about the other 25% and I pray they look elsewhere before Canada.
this is your first post
Can you explain the amazing turn around at PITT and NC STATE dropping 46 places in the rankings after he left?
thanks
Posted on 12/12/16 at 4:47 pm to ApexTiger
Again, I didnt say Canada was awful. Pitt was a much improved offensive team u der Canada. He was at NC State 3yrs and most teetered between tolerating and being frustrated with the O when it came to the 50/50 games. Stats don't tell it all. NC State had a 2 year NFL QB Canada's last 2 seasons. Also lost our best two OL and started a transfer QB this season. So its fair to say the O declined this year from last but I'm not comfortable saying cause/effect was the departure of Matt Canada. Having seen Phillip Rivers, Russell Wilson, Mike Glennon, and Jacoby Brissette over the years, tbe offense always declines when you lose that caliber player/leader.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 4:49 pm to ddeon
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Having seen Phillip Rivers, Russell Wilson, Mike Glennon, and Jacoby Brissette over the years, tbe offense always declines when you lose that caliber player/leader.
fair enough, thanks
Well, I don't know who to hire...
I sure the heck hope O does because his future depends on it...
and the happiness of many in Louisiana depend on this hire
LSU can pay upto 2 million dollars
I would think we can hire one of the best in the business
I also believe LSU has way more talent than NC state or Pitt
Posted on 12/12/16 at 4:56 pm to ApexTiger
Lsu absolutely has more talnet than NC State and Pitt. Which is why in my opinion Canada is a guy worth considering much further down the list. The freaks that LSU has had and will hopefully continue to get need to be exploited. Canada wouldnt be a disaster but neither was CLM. Yet we were all left tbinking we could/should do more particularly with playmakers downfield.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 5:05 pm to ddeon
Thanks for the info. You seem to believe Jacoby Brisette was capable of throwing downfield on a consistent basis. I've never been a fan of him, but I'm also not as familiar with him as you. Was the problem Brisette or play calling? He has always seemed like a QB with a lot of potential, but never came close to playing like one.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 5:21 pm to ddeon
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Canada's inability (with a mid round NFL draftee Brisette) to get the ball to WR's/TE's down the field and over the middle parts of tbe field was a major issue. We were essentially a good run team and good in the flats. Low turnovers and good time of possession and really good against teams we could control the LOS. But anytime we faced 3rd and 8+ it felt like and insurmountable down and distance. Ultimately I don't think Doeren was pleased with a gameplan or two down the stretch which underutilized some of the key guys in defeat
We fire Les Miles only to recreate him as a Frankenstein monster made from parts of other coaches.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:04 pm to Ghost of Colby
JB is a mystery to me honestly. While at NC State he missed long on his 2-3 deep attemps most games. But the shots were few and far between most games. My biggest problem with our downfield attack wasn't usually the lack of go routes. We rarely threatened the mid-to-deep middle of the field despite having capable options. One hand usually washes the other so it became increasingly more dificult for us to run and get the easy short stuff against the better teams because they didn't generally have a between the hash threat. To his credit, Canada is full of fire. The guy is definitely motivating and a tough SOB. But some time the job calls for a route combo that makes the safety flunk a test and I didnt see a ton from him in that regard.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:11 pm to ddeon
ddeon is nailing it. Canada gave us a very mediocre offense with very mediocre talent. This year at Pitt has been a real surprise. I don't think many State fans could have told you that was going to happen. Like ddeon said, he'd probably do pretty well here with the talent we have, but pretty well will not cut it against the gumps
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