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Posted on 6/17/10 at 10:16 am to extremecheddar
Nope, they lose 1 game, and they likely won't be able to jump anyone without a CCG (just like what has happened to USC a couple times).
Posted on 6/17/10 at 10:16 am to Tiger in NY
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Nope, they lose 1 game, and they likely won't be able to jump anyone without a CCG (just like what has happened to USC a couple times).
And they could get jumped by someone who wins their conference championship game too.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 10:17 am to BobBoucher
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The AP poll is the key
The AP Poll is not part of the BCS formula.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 10:30 am to Hoosier Dawg
quote:Yeah, these threads are stupid. Do some math, people.
Texas almost guranteed to be in NC yearly now
The Big 12 just turned into the Pac-10. Look at what has happened to USC in the past decade. In 2003, 2007, and 2008, USC had the same number of losses as the #2 BCS team, but a weaker SOS kept them out. This is what will happen to the UT/OU winner multiple times in the next decade--trust me.
I predict the following will happen in the first three years after the conferences are settled: Nebraska goes undefeated and is #1; the SEC champion has one loss and is #2; the UT/OU winner has one loss and is #3.
THAT's what we can expect to happen often.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 10:34 am to Dr Drunkenstein
quote:Not only that--the entire Big 12 south is still there. The Big 12 has been the least balanced conference ever in the past five or so years. The south has been a gauntlet, and UT will still play all those teams every year.
You guys are putting much more emphasis on Nebraska than they deserve.
During the existence of the Big 12, TX has played Neb 9 times and has won 8. Texas Tech is a much more difficult team to play than Nebraska.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 12:01 pm to xiv
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Nebraska goes undefeated and is #1; the SEC champion has one loss and is #2;
That would be freaking sweet. Unless Bama is the SEC Champ, frick them
Posted on 6/17/10 at 12:22 pm to H-Town Tiger
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If Baylor upsets either UT or OU this year after being the odd man out, I will laugh so hard. Then I will drink for about a week in celebration.
Odd man out? Baylor should be thrilled with Texas & OU, without them, they would be lucky to be in CUSA.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 12:28 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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One other thing about this, why is OU going to start to suck? They've been to 4 BCS CG since 2000, Texas to 2.
Amen, people seem to forget that OU can play some ball. Hell, they have won 6 or 7 NC's I think and unlike Alabama, they could claim more. So you better get used to either Texas or OU's name in the talk for who will play for the NC year after year. Damn college football needs a playoff!
Posted on 6/17/10 at 12:31 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
Texas has never done shite for Baylor. BU got themselves into the Big 8 after Texas tried and failed to get themselves into the Pac-10. And BU was the 3rd most successful program in the SWC and one of the few not in NCAA hot water when the SWC collapsed. BU got themselves into the Big 8 by having 9 winning seasons in the last 10 years of the SWC and having the 3rd highest attendence of any SWC school.
It wasn't charity. And Texas didn't lift a finger to help BU. Baylor forced their way in without any help from you assholes. All BU got from Texas was scorn and derision (which, given how their football team went to crap, isn't completely out of line). But let's not pretend Texas has ever done anything to help Baylor. BU owes Texas two things: jack and shite.
Texas was gonna go to the Big 8 on their own until the Big 8 decided it wanted to go to 12 instead of 9. I hate this re-writing of Baylor's history. They earned their way into the Big 12 on the filed. they have since been crappy, but they were clearly the #3 team in the SWC at the time of its dissolution. And Texas certainly didn't help Baylor get in. BU forced their way in on their own. Thanks for nothing.
It wasn't charity. And Texas didn't lift a finger to help BU. Baylor forced their way in without any help from you assholes. All BU got from Texas was scorn and derision (which, given how their football team went to crap, isn't completely out of line). But let's not pretend Texas has ever done anything to help Baylor. BU owes Texas two things: jack and shite.
Texas was gonna go to the Big 8 on their own until the Big 8 decided it wanted to go to 12 instead of 9. I hate this re-writing of Baylor's history. They earned their way into the Big 12 on the filed. they have since been crappy, but they were clearly the #3 team in the SWC at the time of its dissolution. And Texas certainly didn't help Baylor get in. BU forced their way in on their own. Thanks for nothing.
This post was edited on 6/17/10 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 6/17/10 at 12:32 pm to Earthquake 88
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So you better get used to either Texas or OU's name in the talk for who will play for the NC year after year
they already are. Since 2003, 1 or the other has been in the BCS CG 5 out of 7.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 1:16 pm to dos crystal
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One thing that is over looked. The big XII lost a lot of media votes in Colorado. Some in Nebraska.
But with USC on the down slide, it looks like Texas might become the media darling. They are going to get massively hyped.
Of course the whole situation could get worse... What are the chances that OU will do some things the shouldn't while recruiting to keep up with UT? If they get popped by the NCAA, then Texas won't play anyone.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 1:34 pm to DocBugbear
I know its been stated, but how has being the media darling helped USC? They're strength of schedule has cost them trips to the BCS in 2003, 2007, and 2008 (they made it in 04 and 05 b/c they were undefeated) By the way, Texas's crppy strength of schedule cost them a trip in 2008 (great OOC schedule ya castrated bovines!) By the wy, we should be thrilled to gt Texas or Oklahoma in the BCS every year- the SEC is 3-0 against them in that game! It'll be like Nebraska in the 80's and early 90's: Who's gonna beat Nebraka for the title this year?
Posted on 6/17/10 at 1:35 pm to Baloo
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And Texas certainly didn't help Baylor get in. BU forced their way in on their own.
certainly Texas didn't help, but at the time Gov Ann Richards and the Lt Gov whose name escapes me, threatened UT and A&M if BU was not included in the Big 12. Even if they did earn it, politcal sabre rattling hurt their image.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 1:35 pm to DocBugbear
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they already are. Since 2003, 1 or the other has been in the BCS CG 5 out of 7.
Yep, that is what I'm saying. Texas is not just going to walk in to the NC year after year, some years OU will be there. I tell you people one thing I'm not going to miss is the name USC and NC in the same sentence for two years.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 1:41 pm to Earthquake 88
And for the love of God when did Texas get so good? In the last decade they have 2 confrence crowns and two trips to the BCS title game to Oklahoma's SIX conference titles and Four trips to the BCS title- Good lord, its not like Texas has lit up there crappy conference- they're still second fiddle to Oklahoma!
Posted on 6/17/10 at 1:43 pm to Hoosier Dawg
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They hardly ever play a tough non conference game
Believe me, I'm NOT defending Texass, but the did play a home/home with tOSU a few years back...just sayin'.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 1:45 pm to H-Town Tiger
I'm not saying BU didn't use political machinations to get in, but they were their own machinations, not Texas'. Texas didn't "bring them along", BU and Tech found out about UT and A&M's plot to bolt the SWC and essentially ambushed them.
What's forgotten is that the same political maneuvering got TECH into the Big 12 (they controlled key committees in the legislature). That's no longer mentioned because Tech got good under Leach. but, at the time of expansion, Baylor was the #3 school in the SWC and had been for about a decade. What hurt BU's image was not the politics but failing to win when they got there. Tech and BU forged an alliance to force their way in into the Big 12, but all is forgiven with Tech because they had the best decade in their program's history.
The larger point is that BU doesn't owe Texas shite. And if Texas expects BU to kiss the ring, they can go screw themseleves.
What's forgotten is that the same political maneuvering got TECH into the Big 12 (they controlled key committees in the legislature). That's no longer mentioned because Tech got good under Leach. but, at the time of expansion, Baylor was the #3 school in the SWC and had been for about a decade. What hurt BU's image was not the politics but failing to win when they got there. Tech and BU forged an alliance to force their way in into the Big 12, but all is forgiven with Tech because they had the best decade in their program's history.
The larger point is that BU doesn't owe Texas shite. And if Texas expects BU to kiss the ring, they can go screw themseleves.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 1:47 pm to Hoosier Dawg
quote:You need to show your work. I think you probably copied that off of someone else paper.
After the shakeups the Horns should have about a 85% chance each year of making the NC game.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 1:49 pm to Earthquake 88
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Amen, people seem to forget that OU can play some ball. Hell, they have won 6 or 7 NC's I think and unlike Alabama, they could claim more. So you better get used to either Texas or OU's name in the talk for who will play for the NC year after year. Damn college football needs a playoff!
Another ignorant pollster. Oklahoma has been awarded a title 17 times by various selectors- the same as Alabama. Oklahoma only has 7 poll championships however, to Alabama's 8 and never won the rose bowl.
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