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Did LSU players tell the co-DC's how to fix the scheme Sat.?

Posted on 11/17/08 at 2:54 pm
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 11/17/08 at 2:54 pm
Interesting observations from Scott McCay's blog:

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And on defense, after Troy got the touchdown in the third quarter to go up 31-3, Miles and Peveto called a meeting of the Tiger defense on the bench - and before they could even get started I saw Chris Hawkins, Jai Eugene and Chad Jones immediately jump on them and start talking. It looked like it got a little heated, but after they said their piece Miles and Peveto looked at each other and Peveto seemed to nod and then started marking his greaseboard. After that, Troy did absolutely NOTHING offensively. I don't know if these guys were suggesting strategy, or what. But whatever it was, this was the players taking over a meeting the coaches called, whether to chew them out or what - and obviously their input contributed to an immediate turnaround. And none of those guys were seniors, and all of them made plays after that.


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This post was edited on 11/17/08 at 2:55 pm
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 11/17/08 at 2:59 pm to
maybe they just got their heads out of their asses and realized they were playing fricking troy
Posted by OldIowaTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
7313 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 3:04 pm to
For what it's worth I saw that meeting. And RIGHT before that on the drive Peterson was shutting his guys down playing tight coverage and initiating contact while the rest of the DBs were playing off 10 yards. Peterson was pissed, noticeably, when Troy marched down the field. RIGHT after the XP he went and got right in a coach's face. Not threatening or heated necessarily but he looked like he was giving him some pretty serious input.....then they had a DBs meeting on the bench........and now the blog. Interesting.
Posted by bayourant
Homer
Member since Aug 2005
34445 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 3:05 pm to
This might be related to this

Troy’s offense and the art of stealing signals

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Posted by Proejo
Dallas
Member since Oct 2007
5889 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 3:12 pm to
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Troy’s offense and the art of stealing signals


Interesting spin.
Posted by ToplessTenors4evuh
Member since Jan 2005
41259 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 3:14 pm to
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Did LSU players tell the co-DC's how to fix the scheme Sat.?


*meh* or maybe, for once this year, the players took some responsibility for what's happened and acted like leaders, for a change.
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
3087 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 3:15 pm to
i don't know if the players told the DCs anything or not, but after the first drive of the second half, we started press coverage on the slot receiver, instead of 10 - 15 yards off like we had the rest of the game...
Posted by OldIowaTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
7313 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 3:20 pm to
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we started press coverage on the slot receiver, instead of 10 - 15 yards off like we had the rest of the game


Bingo, that's what I mean. We have had trouble with this alot in the past year and a half (since South Carolina last year). They run off our DBs and run an out with the slot receiver against the LB or safety.

Peterson was playin his guy tight on the first drive of the second half and you couldnt throw there. Eventually the others adjusted as well.
Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
14561 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 3:20 pm to
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Troy’s offense and the art of stealing signals


Stupid.

You can watch the CBs yelling adjustments into the line/cutrera.

Plus wait you mean we might line up showing blitz and then back off knowing they will adjust to the blitz, absurd!
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33336 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 3:24 pm to
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Did LSU players tell the co-DC's how to fix the scheme Sat.?
The players have been saying all year that the scheme is whack.
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22645 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 3:28 pm to
It's the same scheme that Pelini ran. Experienced DBs will do wonders for a defense.
Posted by footballislife
Member since Mar 2007
3907 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 3:29 pm to
I found it amazing that we were lining up not one, but two DB's 12 or so yards off the receiver on a team that was throwing the short stuff all night long.
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22645 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 3:33 pm to
I guess if they would have gotten closer to the line, LSU could have won the time possesion b/c Troy would of scored alot quicker.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 3:34 pm to
one thing we changed that made the difference. jamming the receivers at the line.
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 3:34 pm to
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I guess if they would have gotten closer to the line, LSU could have won the time possesion b/c Troy would of scored alot quicker.


Yeah, uh, LSU's DB's should be more than athletic enough to effectively play press coverage against Troy.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33382 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 3:35 pm to
Scott called out the senior leaders or lack thereof.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
82209 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 3:36 pm to
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Stupid.

You can watch the CBs yelling adjustments into the line/cutrera.

Plus wait you mean we might line up showing blitz and then back off knowing they will adjust to the blitz, absurd!

adding to your point, why can't this guy find another example from a different play with the same thing happening? Secondly, if you watch closely, Cutrera and Jean-Francois look away before the signals are finished. To think they could decode that crap is idiotic.
Posted by DirtyDellTiger
Lakeview, New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2008
1228 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 3:44 pm to
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No, I didn't forget Marlon Favorite. And while Ricky Jean-Francois did have one nice play where he stuffed the back in the backfield, I'm not going to get into what I saw out of him on the sidelines. If he wants to go pro after this year, he can. It's cool.


this was by far the most interesting tidbit in McKay's blog today.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34211 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 4:24 pm to
The players have been frustrated with the scheme all season. Especially frustrated with the plays coming in late. Some occasions the D line thinks its one call and the secondary thinks its another.

The defensive situation is a mess.

Talk to some of the players 1 on 1 and all will tell you there morale is pretty low with little no trust in the DCs

Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33382 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 4:33 pm to
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Talk to some of the players 1 on 1 and all will tell you there morale is pretty low with little no trust in the DCs

you have?
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