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Posted on 11/25/08 at 11:22 pm
Posted by LSU32
Member since Nov 2008
550 posts
Posted on 11/25/08 at 11:22 pm
Next year if mccray is not starting in smith's place or grants i will flip
Posted by HomeisWhereYouMakeIt
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
749 posts
Posted on 11/25/08 at 11:23 pm to
Let go of Grant and sign Ed Reed next year
Posted by TigerBait45
Moreauville, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
1725 posts
Posted on 11/25/08 at 11:24 pm to
I hate to say it but I think you're going to flip, then, because the Saints have way too much money invested in Grant and Smith to put them on the bench, as sad as that is.

Grant was having a solid year before he got hurt though, but man McCray gives them a rush presence off the edge that they've missed for a while now.
Posted by LSU32
Member since Nov 2008
550 posts
Posted on 11/25/08 at 11:26 pm to
thats the thing. Most people think he is just a pass rusher but he can play the run pretty well also.
Posted by Vood
Member since Dec 2007
8561 posts
Posted on 11/25/08 at 11:33 pm to
Will Smith needs to go. He might as well be wearing a ski mask since he is robbing the Saints of their money.

McCray was always in the backfield giving the right tackle fits. He is fast and wants to be here.
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 11/25/08 at 11:34 pm to
id get rid of grant, health issues, other problems, and he is not producing on the field. he will be suspended for 4 games too. he should go.
Posted by TigerBait45
Moreauville, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
1725 posts
Posted on 11/25/08 at 11:36 pm to
They're going to have to eat way too much money to cut either one any time soon.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
66651 posts
Posted on 11/25/08 at 11:43 pm to
Ok good. I really thought this was the mother of all "Get all the LSU players we can" thread talking about Danny McCray
Posted by dranknpurple
austin
Member since Nov 2007
2181 posts
Posted on 11/25/08 at 11:59 pm to
I would soooooooo hop on the danny mccray pain train...
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
73047 posts
Posted on 11/26/08 at 12:09 am to
McCray is so fast and such a special player but since we have so much invested in Grant and Smith.. nothing wrong with 3 deep DE depth!
Posted by Lakefront-Tiger
Da Lakefront
Member since Nov 2004
6072 posts
Posted on 11/26/08 at 5:48 am to
Grant would go first, since he signed his big contract first.

Move grant's fat arse inside, push Smith to do better, and find more lean, quick DE's like McCray.

How many times does Jamaal Brown need to be victimized by Julius Peppers, John Abraham, etc.. before we figure out that fat sometimes run-stopping DE's don't get it done?
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162372 posts
Posted on 11/26/08 at 7:40 am to
you do realize he takes himself out of a shite ton of plays by speed rushing every down?

and yes like someone said grant was having a much better season than will smith who really has gone MIA this season.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
23057 posts
Posted on 11/26/08 at 8:09 am to
Just hire a new DC

someone with some better scheme's and blitz packages...someone who can create better matchups, and I think you will see Grant and Smith return back to pro bowl form
Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
14561 posts
Posted on 11/26/08 at 8:28 am to
I remember when Grant then Smith were the next big things.

Now its McCray. Fascinating.
Posted by LSUsaintsfanla
NOLA
Member since Dec 2006
10956 posts
Posted on 11/26/08 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

thats the thing. Most people think he is just a pass rusher but he can play the run pretty well also


not as well as smith does. mccray play the runs away from him well but the run towards him he usually opens up a hole b/c he is a speed rusher so he tryes to beat people to the outside a majority of the time. he needs to spin back in every once ina while and he will start to develop a lot more success.
Posted by Landon Donovan
Nola
Member since Apr 2006
439 posts
Posted on 11/26/08 at 3:52 pm to
McCray is the reason the DBs were jumping the routes Monday!
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 11/26/08 at 4:23 pm to
these guys are paid for life, Grant and Smith, they accomplished what they wanted, lottery contracts, now they can play subpar football for the rest of their contracts.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15345 posts
Posted on 11/26/08 at 5:03 pm to
McCray just sells out against the pass and launches himself into the backfield on every play. For instance, Rodgers' TD run was made possible because McCray broke the cardinal rule of D-Line play by running past the football. He has no concept of staying home.
Posted by sparkywade
Member since Dec 2007
182 posts
Posted on 11/26/08 at 6:57 pm to
McCray is a speed rusher and he only weighs about 239. He cant play every down all year long.
Posted by TigerBait45
Moreauville, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
1725 posts
Posted on 11/26/08 at 7:49 pm to
He was a full-time guy in jacksonville and was pretty good..had 10 sacks a few seasons ago.

I think he could be an every-down guy but he's best as a situational pass-rusher.
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