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Harder They Fall w Bogart. Yea?

Posted on 6/22/24 at 5:47 am
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 5:47 am
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Posted by TheNameIsDalton
Huntsville
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:18 am to
Watched it the other night on Prime, a rare film that mixes noir and sports. I enjoyed it. But hell Bogart can carry anything.
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion
Texas
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:39 am to
Pretty solid film as I recall, although it seemed a little odd seeing Bogart in one of these patently 50s-style dramas. Not that he wasn't in a lot of films that decade, but by the mid-1950s you start seeing a lot of these heavy dramas which were influenced by live-TV dramas like "Playhouse 90" and "Studio One".... lots of tight shots of overly-intense, grimacing faces in very enclosed quarters. These films were usually deemed 'high art' in their day, and critics still love them, but I usually find many of them too angsty and overdone. Bogart doesn't really fit in with that, although he could do 'world-weary' better than anyone this side of William Holden. TCM was showing "The Big Knife" (1955), with Jack Palance, a few months back, and it was very much in that talky, angsty tv-drama vein. I found it pretty insufferable.

As filmmaking approaches go, I respond much more favorably to something like Bogart's first big star role, in "High Sierra" (1940), which is so much more open and vibrant. Where neither action nor characterization become subsumed by the psychological element. Marvelous film. Over the long haul, I've found a lot of 1950s/60s dramas, which used to impress me at first blush, haven't worn as well as some of the older classics.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
155629 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 12:52 pm to
Stolen by Rod Steiger

One of those '50s movies where you get to see a number of familiar character actors at the start of their careers.

A few bits of THTF trivia:

Bogart was ill during production and some of his lines could not be heard, so he was allegedly dubbed in some scenes by Paul Frees. I've never been able to spot these moments.

The film was released with two endings: one where Bogart types there should be a senate investigation into boxing; the other has him insisting boxing must be outlawed.

The kid playing Steiger's son is Tony Blankley, who grew up to be a political pundit. Anyone else remember him?



Posted by JackDempsey
Lake Charles
Member since May 2023
769 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 1:03 pm to
Definitely yea.

And check out In a Lonely Place, really good Bogart film.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
57546 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 1:27 pm to
I miss him. He was great on the talk shows.
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