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Can everyone now finally accept that Trump isnt in control and our gov is controlled?

Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:06 am
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:06 am
Or will the true believers try to spin this into Trump getting what he wanted despite him always saying he did not want a war with Iran?

What is more likely, Trump changed his stance that he has always held overnight, or that he had no choice because the neocon war machine forced his hand?

The first step is admitting we have a problem in that our government is controlled.

The next step is to quit trying to blame others and start voting for folks that dont belong to the democratic or republican party overlords.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
95566 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:07 am to
Who do you suggest we vote for?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:08 am to
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:08 am to
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Or will the true believers try to spin this into Trump getting what he wanted despite him always saying he did not want a war with Iran?


We're at war with Iran?
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41739 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:09 am to
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an everyone now finally accept that Trump isnt in control and our gov is controlled?


Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6035 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:09 am to
Go ahead and describe how our government is under control and who is doing it, I will hang up and listen! This should be really informative!!
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13453 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:09 am to
Elon was right. Trump is in the Epstein files.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80977 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:10 am to
It's pretty clear that presidents act on IC info.

The real people in charge are still the IC.

Always have and always will.

It is that way BY DESIGN because no national leader is omniscient. It has to be that way unless you have a leader who is a literal living God.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:10 am to
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Who do you suggest we vote for?

Start local. Dont vote for anyone with a D or an R next to their name on the ballot.

U cant just elect an independent president without first electing a non party-affiliated congress.

Even if u like a candidate, if they have a D or an R next to their name they will always bow down to the money when push comes to shove.
This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 9:11 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:10 am to
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Go ahead and describe how our government is under control and who is doing it,


2017-2021 MAGA absolutely hated the "deep state" and now, you 100% trust them.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
87173 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:11 am to
Trump has been saying Iran can’t have a nuke before just now.


I think it’s just the opposite.


Washington got used to the president being more of a figurehead. Trump comes in and they all go who the frick is this guy that thinks he’s the actual president.


And that’s what the last ten years were about.



Trump isn’t going to pull another Afghanistan.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:11 am to
Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
6300 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:11 am to
He does NOT want war with Iran. Back in the day we whipped our children that misbehaved to get them back in line.
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
2635 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:12 am to
Interesting timing as I was wanting to share this video which may be the best video I've watched in a long time. A car guy who nails it, imho.

Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:13 am to
Baw. Trump is the one that removed the agreement that led to Iran getting closer to having nukes.

Believe their actions, not their words.

Trump can say and believe one thing and be forced to do something else by the neocons

This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 9:14 am
Posted by rileytiger
Surfing The Gulf of America
Member since Feb 2007
4199 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:13 am to
Controlled by who? You throw out a tin foil hat theory without the key ingredient. Do you see what the democrats and media are doing? Trump has foiled their globalist agenda. It’s right in front of you.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
87063 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:14 am to
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our gov is controlled
Is it the Jews? I heard that, Powermullah says it!
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
8821 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:15 am to
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Corinthians420


The loon brigade is completely assembled now!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:15 am to
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The loon brigade is completely assembled now!




Was the "Deep State" talking point a lie?

Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
95566 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:17 am to
So you cant provide a single name. That sounds like a winning strategy
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