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Need advise for dispute with Chase Mortgage

Posted on 11/23/09 at 9:19 pm
Posted by irishcpl
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2008
196 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 9:19 pm
I started a refinancing process thru Chase under the "Obama" loan. Main and most important selling point was that I would not have to pay PMI on the new mortgage because I do not currently pay it. After process stated facts changed and they added the PMI, my loan is still over 80% of value. The initial agent for Chase emailed me saying that he would refund my deposit,$750. Now hes saying that I'm Sh*t out of luck because the deposit was non-refundable. I was not going to do the loan until he made the no PMI statement, which he said he was positive about. This whole conversation is on file over there somewhere. Do I have a legitimate reason for requesting my refund?
Posted by TortiousTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
12668 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 9:57 pm to
the deposit on the property? are you talking about earnest money? I've only had one home loan, but I've never heard of a deposit for a mortgage.
Posted by irishcpl
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2008
196 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 10:02 pm to
It was a deposit for the refinance. My stance is that I was not going to do it until he provided my in incorrect info.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 10:17 pm to
$750 is extremely tiny chump change to Chase, I have a hard time believing anyone is deliberately screwing you here. And it is very normal for the initial deposit to be nonrefundable, in fact that's the point of the deposit so it's unlikely you would win anything.

More than likely the Chase guy made an honest mistake and legally speaking you pay the price for it since his emails probably do not constitute a legally binding agreement, he just screwed up is all.

My advice would be to go to the agent's boss and explain the situation. Like I said, $750 is chump change to them and they will more than likely just refund it and move on if you can be even semi-persuasive.
Posted by TortiousTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
12668 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 10:52 pm to
Send him a letter stating that the information presented to you regarding the non-payment of PMI caused you to enter into the agreement.

In Louisiana an obligation with a false or unlawful cause can have no effect.

Tell him to either refund your deposit within 10 days or you will be retaining an attorney regarding the matter.
This post was edited on 11/23/09 at 10:53 pm
Posted by TortiousTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
12668 posts
Posted on 11/24/09 at 2:03 pm to
keep us updated Irish.
Posted by Thomas98
Member since Nov 2009
55 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 3:43 pm to
There is a new law that states that lenders DO NOT have to refund your application fee if they have the loan approved. So be very sure you have the right lender before you pay an application fee.

Chase is horrible to deal with so I would be shocked if they gave you the $750 back & no lawyer will take a case for $750 its not worth their time.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
57408 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 4:22 pm to
Um, why is he paying a fee upfront for a refi?
Posted by displacedhorn
batonrouge
Member since Jul 2009
932 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 4:26 pm to
because purple he delt with chase.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
57408 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 8:01 pm to
I know that, just surprised Chase was charging him an app fee on a refi. One of the advantages to refis is supposed to be no closing costs out of pocket.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44413 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:09 pm to
quote:

Chase is horrible to deal with


they have screwed up my escrow 3 of the last 4 years and have no idea what they are doing
Posted by TortiousTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
12668 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 12:36 am to
is chase still buying up every mortgage in LA?

as far as:

quote:

Chase is horrible to deal with so I would be shocked if they gave you the $750 back & no lawyer will take a case for $750 its not worth their time.


you likely won't need a lawyer. Irish, you got an update for us?

Posted by AbsolutTiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2006
4796 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 2:29 pm to
I've been fighting them over flood insurance for three months. I don't ever want another mortgage with Chase.
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 5:23 pm to
tsk. all that talk and little in writing.

Chase is Rockefeller;s bank, the one which intentionally destroyed The Bronx, rather than have Democrats with a power base. Remember that, next time. Not all lenders are the same.

I would report this to the insurance commissioner.



Posted by YellowMonkey
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2009
147 posts
Posted on 12/4/09 at 12:26 am to
Update:

Emailed original loan processer with a request for the transcript that he mentioned and also included in email his email stating that if I wanted my money back all I have to do was request it. He reply was that he would get my refund back for me.

I will keep yall posted on the process. The biggest thing that helped me was having that email from him and him bringing up the transcript of our phone call.
Posted by irishcpl
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2008
196 posts
Posted on 12/12/09 at 4:38 pm to
Deposit refunded on 12-2-09!!!!!!
Posted by CommanderHeavy
Downtown Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
3386 posts
Posted on 12/12/09 at 4:46 pm to
Accidental alter post?
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 12/12/09 at 11:30 pm to
quote:

Accidental alter post?


So it would seem. But anyway.
Posted by Walkertiger
Asst. to the Regional Admin
Member since Nov 2007
2347 posts
Posted on 12/13/09 at 2:18 pm to
yellowmonkey?
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