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Posted on 11/1/10 at 2:33 am
Posted by TigahFan4Life
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 2:33 am
at this point? Does he do something different this week with Bama? Not meaning a new offense, but better game planning. Possibly letting Shep try the option at QB, or Shep playing RB more, or letting Lee play the majority of the snaps while JJ comes in situational plays? His history proves he does not change. IMO, he is gonna stick with his same offense that he's been doing the last few years. I have to admit that I am not confident with what we will bring offensively. It's gonna be same shite different day. Lots of frustration.

Now dont get me wrong, I will be pulling for my Tigers all the way, but I just dont think anything will ever change with this. Defense/ST will have to win this game, just like all the other games
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 2:43 am to
If someone says so, they are lying.

My only hope is he hires someone else and stays the hell away from it.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 2:45 am to
Shep will never see time at QB at LSU. I honestly don't agree or disagree that this is a travesty, its just not going to happen.
Posted by TigahFan4Life
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 2:45 am to
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My only hope is he hires someone else and stays the hell away from it.



I would love to know whats going on behind closed doors. Is it Miles overturning calls, or Crowton calling shitty plays? Everyone has a theory, I even have mine. I just want to know the truth
Posted by TigahFan4Life
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 2:51 am to
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Shep will never see time at QB at LSU


They should design situational plays for him, and that includes a pass
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 2:53 am to
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I would love to know whats going on behind closed doors. Is it Miles overturning calls, or Crowton calling shitty plays? Everyone has a theory, I even have mine. I just want to know the truth


I have mine as well. In my opinion, getting rid of Crowton isn't going to solve all the offensive problems.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 2:53 am to
Should and will are two completely different things.
Posted by TigahFan4Life
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 2:57 am to
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In my opinion, getting rid of Crowton isn't going to solve all the offensive problems.



I agree. Just a band-aid on an open wound.
Posted by TigahFan4Life
Baton Rouge, LA home of the TIGAHS!
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 2:58 am to
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Should and will are two completely different things.



thats my point. I just want to know if there are still skeptics left that feel there will be change
Posted by Hitchcock
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 3:40 am to
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quote:
In my opinion, getting rid of Crowton isn't going to solve all the offensive problems.



I agree. Just a band-aid on an open wound.




another pointless, tired, thread that ends with a Miles beatdown by a negatigers.
Posted by cookie
Death Valley
Member since Oct 2010
182 posts
Posted on 11/1/10 at 5:49 am to
No, no faith whatsoever. Miles(Smash Mouth Philosophy)+Crowton(Spread Philosophy)= Jalopy Cluster frick Version of a Power Spread. It looks like a Jalopy b/c our offense is an assembly of misplaced parts by not building around the core strength--running the ball. Obviously, we're unidimensional with the dual-QB scripted series. More often than not, with JJ under center Crowton is presumedly calling a limited set of plays that are based on that he has feels most confident JJ can execute. This is where the predictability begins. For example, how many games in a row, and how many times a game have we seen roll right option pass? It'd be nice to see Crowton have some more creativity on plays like this that he so often calls. I.E., when a blitz looks eminent, give the look that that you're going with the run pass option by flushing the pocket to the right, and once you have defenders rolling with JJ, bust their balls with a old-school screen to the halfback going away from defenders. My point, we do not catch defenses off guard by counteracting our tendencies. I am not blaming JJ for his sub-par performances, rather I blame it on the young man getting plays dialed in that do not fit his skill set. Further, he clearly displays poor pocket presence, does not get the ball to "hot reads" on an ensuing blitz, shows a tendency to pick his receiver before the ball is ever snapped, subsequently deadlocking onto one receiver. Never does he manipulate defenders with his eyes/pump fake, and there is rarely a progression to the 2nd 3rd read, or halfback often open in the flats. These skills must be ingrained by the coaches, it looks like shite how it is scripted for now. As previously stated, it would be nice to see our beloved tigers run an offense that fits the players on hand, not a predetermined philosophy from the so-called "Wizard". Take the NY Jets, for example. Bad arse defense with an offense built around the run--a clock consuming offense who will force you to load the box and stop the run, then have the ability for big plays with the play action. Scrap Crowton, scrap the ineffective power spread option, or whatever the frick that pre-scripted garbage that is equally confusing our fans as well as our own offense. Flush the predictable one-dimensional dual QB offense, get it off the fricking field! It's ugly, it doesn't win games, it doesn't make sense, and QBs get no rhythm, but it could work if run a NY Jets variation. (I'm a Saints fan damnit, but for sake of example they help the explanation) Employ an Air Coryell offense with the our dominating running core forcing you to stop them, and consequently opening up a variety of play action play with our deep vertical threat with our combination of big and fast receiving core, while also using a set of mid-range pass plays to the TE, our elusive slot receiver R. Shepard, or a check down the HB on a variation of routes. Of course, this offense is befitting for JL (the hypothetical mark sanchez) skill set as a pocket passer. Once the defense is forced not to load the box, it's time to give the ball back to our HB again because there will be better opportunities to to run. This is where we can throw another situational, not pre-scripted, wrinkle with JJ under center, acting as our hypothetical Brad Smith in regard to building our offense around in a similar fashion to NY Jet's philosophy. Not only will be have a much more balanced system with JL running an Air Coryell attack, but using JJ in a wildcat will play to our benefit if his is used theoretically as a run threat, but he could open big play potential able to roll the pocket in a bootleg fashion, for example, optimizing his chance at success by forcing the safeties to bite and potentially getting the ball over the head of the safety who may be out of position. Thus, frick it if JJ makes one of his typical to high for Yoa Ming to catch overthrows since the safety will be out of position to make an interception. If JJ were given a chance to make throws off of a PA where players are out of position, the success may breed confidence and there may be a the possibility of him playing to a higher potential. And if he is well coached, if the throw is not there because of good coverage down field, let the young man use to ability to scramble for yardage. Our offense is a bass ackward jalopy for now however. The less efficient QB is still making starts, while the who scores most of the points is given no chance to develop a rhythm. Instead, our whacky-arse coaches the fumble and bumble with current no identity approach to get in the appropriate personnel on 4&6 at Auburn, and force JL to orchestrate yet another crucial 1st down, but the ingenious Wizard give JL an empty backfield, knowing Fairly created havoc all day for JL, and offering no halfback in the backfield for to pick up needed protection to keep the drive alive. I don't give a shite what people say about fans complaining too much about the year, it's ridiculous that we are not given the best opportunity to win because of piss poor game plans and our jalopy of an offense struggling to switch in and out of groupings dependent on specific situations. We need to use our most competent players throughout the game so we can score points, establish a lead, finish games strong, and keep ourselves to come up with miracle wins every week. You can't find magic every week on the way our games are planned. Plain and simple, this falls on Les Miles, and the highest paid OC in the SEC--frick mediocrity--let's play to win!
This post was edited on 11/1/10 at 6:06 am
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 5:59 am to
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cookie


what did u say? Pls repeat.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 6:22 am to
yeah.......I ain't readin' that shite.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/1/10 at 6:37 am to
i do not have confidence is this offense. i will be surprised if we can run the ball on bama, but i was surprised as hell last year when we ran better than against ull. the team really gets up for bama. since we lost to auburn, this is put up or shut up for this team. our defense and st's also need their best game. jj was playing a lot better last year than this year and bama killed jl last year. our offense is predictable and too weak at ol and qb to have faith in it.
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
15833 posts
Posted on 11/1/10 at 6:38 am to
Cookie- no way I am reading all that- could you condense it to once sentence?
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/1/10 at 6:51 am to
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Is it Miles overturning calls, or Crowton calling shitty plays?


Crowton has a history of a rapid decline in production the longer he stays...this isn't the first place this has happened. He is a playcaller, not a strategiest, which is why there is seldom a decent flow to the offense...and why he doesn't really have a plan to attack specific defenses.

Go back and find the blog that has been linked here multiple time, that was written before Crowton got here (or about the time), and see if that isn't all playing out.
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 11/1/10 at 7:04 am to
quote:

Does he do something different this week with Bama?

Aside from a trick play, I wouldn't expect to see anything different from the Tiger offense this Saturday. What we've seen the past 3-4 games we'll see this Saturday I believe.
Posted by Hitchcock
Member since Oct 2008
2889 posts
Posted on 11/1/10 at 7:20 am to
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Cookie- no way I am reading all that- could you condense it to once sentence?



It's says: Miles has 4 of LSU's Top 10 Point scoring teams in LSU's history.
Posted by SenseiBuddy
Ascension Parish
Member since Oct 2005
4744 posts
Posted on 11/1/10 at 7:22 am to
this coaching staff does not adjust to an opponent.

this coaching staff does not utilize its playmakers more.

this coaching staff cannot manage a ticking clock.



Posted by Hitchcock
Member since Oct 2008
2889 posts
Posted on 11/1/10 at 7:38 am to
quote:

this coaching staff does not adjust to an opponent.

this coaching staff does not utilize its playmakers more.

this coaching staff cannot manage a ticking clock.



It'd look a lot better to the 'tards if you had a after each sentence & maybe a Buddy Jesus or a Facepalm pic.
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