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TV plugged into a surge protector
Posted on 7/27/15 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 7/27/15 at 6:33 pm
WHo here doesn't have their TV plugged into a surge protector? I do not and have recently just realized it when my electricity cut on and off a couple days ago. I guess I will purchase one now but don't need a big one bc my TV will be the only thing plugged into it. Any recommendations?
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Posted on 7/27/15 at 7:17 pm to slapahoe
I have a Panamax.
You get what you pay for.
You get what you pay for.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 8:32 pm to slapahoe
I have a ESP QC digital power filter on my tv and Panamax m4300 for my components.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 12:56 pm to slapahoe
Once a surge is all but invited inside, then nothing protects from that surge. Once inside, it goes hunting for earth ground destructively via appliances. Sometimes adjacent protectors give that surge even more incoming and destructive paths through nearby appliances.
Read its spec numbers. Destructive surges can be hundreds of thousands of joules. How many joules does a protector claim to absorb? Hundreds? A thousand? That near zero protector sells in Walmart for maybe $10. An electrically equivalent one from Panamax or Monster is $25 or $85.
They know people who buy appliance adjacent protectors will buy almost anything based only in hearsay or wild speculation. Monster simply puts more expensive looking paint on an equivalent product, raises its price, and a majority will then declare Monster as better. Only a minority will discuss specification numbers or other realities.
The fewer who know this stuff do not use products from APC, Belkin, Panamax, Tripplite, Monster, et al. Instead, the informed use a product that connects a surge low impedance (ie 'less than 10 feet') to earth BEFORE that surge can enter.
Companies of integrity include GE, Polyphaser (an industry benchmark), Siemens, Syscom, Intermatic, Keison, Ditek, ABB, Square D, and Leviton. A proven Cutler-Hammer solution is available in both Lowes and Home Depot.
Most important. Protectors never do protection. Effective protectors connect low impedance (ie wire has no sharp bends, no splices) to what harmlessly absorbs hundreds of thousands of joules. Single point earth ground. Protectors are only connecting devices to something else that does the protection.
Those near zero plug-in protectors have no earth ground and will not discuss it. After all, when selling a $3 power strip with ten cent protector parts for $25 or $85 to naïve consumers, then why discuss anything that could only hurt sales? Best is to keep a majority naïve. Best is to hype a magic box as if it will somehow absorb hundreds of thousands of joules. Or somehow block what three miles of sky could not.
An honest recommendation will always say where hundreds of thousands of joules harmlessly dissipate. So that even a protector is not damaged by direct lightning strikes. IOW, honest recommendations mostly discuss the 'art' - what does protection - single point earth ground.
Only protectors from companies of integrity have a dedicated wire to connect to earth. That superior solution costs tens of times less money - about $1 per protected appliance. A majority who recommend have never learned about a solution that has been well understood and standard for over 100 years. A protector is only as effective as its earth ground.
BTW, cable TV and telephone must already have this well proven solution. AC electric does not. A destructive surge is most often incoming on AC mains and outgoing to earth maybe via HDMI or coax cable. The naïve use observation to assume a surge was incoming on cable. The informed realize damage is often on the outgoing path to earth. Outgoing and destructive via HDMI or cable connection due to superior protection installed for free.
Homeowner all but invited a surge to enter and go hunting for earth destructively via AC electric wires. Damage due to no properly earthed 'whole house' solution.
Read its spec numbers. Destructive surges can be hundreds of thousands of joules. How many joules does a protector claim to absorb? Hundreds? A thousand? That near zero protector sells in Walmart for maybe $10. An electrically equivalent one from Panamax or Monster is $25 or $85.
They know people who buy appliance adjacent protectors will buy almost anything based only in hearsay or wild speculation. Monster simply puts more expensive looking paint on an equivalent product, raises its price, and a majority will then declare Monster as better. Only a minority will discuss specification numbers or other realities.
The fewer who know this stuff do not use products from APC, Belkin, Panamax, Tripplite, Monster, et al. Instead, the informed use a product that connects a surge low impedance (ie 'less than 10 feet') to earth BEFORE that surge can enter.
Companies of integrity include GE, Polyphaser (an industry benchmark), Siemens, Syscom, Intermatic, Keison, Ditek, ABB, Square D, and Leviton. A proven Cutler-Hammer solution is available in both Lowes and Home Depot.
Most important. Protectors never do protection. Effective protectors connect low impedance (ie wire has no sharp bends, no splices) to what harmlessly absorbs hundreds of thousands of joules. Single point earth ground. Protectors are only connecting devices to something else that does the protection.
Those near zero plug-in protectors have no earth ground and will not discuss it. After all, when selling a $3 power strip with ten cent protector parts for $25 or $85 to naïve consumers, then why discuss anything that could only hurt sales? Best is to keep a majority naïve. Best is to hype a magic box as if it will somehow absorb hundreds of thousands of joules. Or somehow block what three miles of sky could not.
An honest recommendation will always say where hundreds of thousands of joules harmlessly dissipate. So that even a protector is not damaged by direct lightning strikes. IOW, honest recommendations mostly discuss the 'art' - what does protection - single point earth ground.
Only protectors from companies of integrity have a dedicated wire to connect to earth. That superior solution costs tens of times less money - about $1 per protected appliance. A majority who recommend have never learned about a solution that has been well understood and standard for over 100 years. A protector is only as effective as its earth ground.
BTW, cable TV and telephone must already have this well proven solution. AC electric does not. A destructive surge is most often incoming on AC mains and outgoing to earth maybe via HDMI or coax cable. The naïve use observation to assume a surge was incoming on cable. The informed realize damage is often on the outgoing path to earth. Outgoing and destructive via HDMI or cable connection due to superior protection installed for free.
Homeowner all but invited a surge to enter and go hunting for earth destructively via AC electric wires. Damage due to no properly earthed 'whole house' solution.
This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 7/28/15 at 1:00 pm to westom
quote:Sirens go off in this guys house when someone on TD types surge protector.
westom
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:41 pm to slapahoe
Mine goes into this...
No issues for the last 3 years. The TV, a large plasma, draws about 3 amps at times (full white screen).
No issues for the last 3 years. The TV, a large plasma, draws about 3 amps at times (full white screen).
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