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The more I think about this, the less enthusiastic I am about Jimbo
Posted on 11/26/15 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 11/26/15 at 7:18 pm
A lot of personal and professional baggage coming along with him, if indeed Miles is let go and if indeed he is the guy. I wasn't crazy about how he handled Winston. Say what you want about Miles' product on the field, the off the field image of this program was about as stable and positive as it gets in CFB. Not perfect by any means, but he has kept us out of contention for the Fulmer Cup, and Miles' personal life and that of his assistants has been exemplary. I question whether Jimbo's tenure would be the same way.
And I believe there will be pro and anti-Jimbo factions, just like there were with Miles, and unless he exceeds Miles' performance considerably, and immediately, the negatigers will be out in force, again.
Given all that, I'd rather bring in a fresh face with some leeway to build his own program his own way, and not expected to necessarily be in the playoff his first year or two. Jimbo would be on the hotseat immediately with a lot of fans-including me, TBH.
And I believe there will be pro and anti-Jimbo factions, just like there were with Miles, and unless he exceeds Miles' performance considerably, and immediately, the negatigers will be out in force, again.
Given all that, I'd rather bring in a fresh face with some leeway to build his own program his own way, and not expected to necessarily be in the playoff his first year or two. Jimbo would be on the hotseat immediately with a lot of fans-including me, TBH.
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Posted on 11/26/15 at 7:21 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:
the off the field image of this program was about as stable and positive as it gets in CFB.
While I agree with you (we've had an overall good image under Miles), we certainly have not been immune to high profile issues:
Hill
RP
Tyrann
JordanJefferson
Nature of the beast in CFB... 18-24 year old kids are gonna do stupid shite and get in trouble occasionally
This post was edited on 11/26/15 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 11/26/15 at 7:21 pm to Jim Rockford
All this FSU stuff doesnt sit well with me. Think about all the team vote shite and there are people that still think Hill should have been booted from the team. This pales in comparison to a bar fight.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 7:21 pm to Jim Rockford
Don't talk shite about Jimbo
Posted on 11/26/15 at 7:22 pm to Jim Rockford
You're easily baffoned by the media right?
Posted on 11/26/15 at 7:22 pm to Jim Rockford
Were you crazy with how Miles handled Jevonte Domond, Jeremy hill, etc?
Posted on 11/26/15 at 7:22 pm to rmnldr
Yeah but will the negatigers be the people that were miles supporters and positigers?!?
This post was edited on 11/26/15 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 11/26/15 at 7:23 pm to Jim Rockford
Well then we should call it off with Jimbo....whew, almost went to far.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 7:23 pm to JPLSU1981
[quote]re: The more I think about this, the less enthusiastic I am about Jimbo(Posted on 11/26/15 at 7:21 pm to Jim Rockford) quote: the off the field image of this program was about as stable and positive as it gets in CFB. While I agree with you, we've had our issues as do all programs: Hill RP Tyrann JordanJefferson Have a Great day
Posted on 11/26/15 at 7:25 pm to Jim Rockford
How about the fact he lost 59-20 in a semi final game. Scored 20 points against one of the worst pass D's in the country that season with a heisman winner at QB. How much worse is that than 21-0?
Posted on 11/26/15 at 7:25 pm to Jim Rockford
Great.
Add a THIRD faction to this fan base.
Add a THIRD faction to this fan base.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 7:26 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:
I wasn't crazy about how he handled Winston
Should have been a team vote
This post was edited on 11/26/15 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 11/26/15 at 7:27 pm to Jim Rockford
The more I think about it, the timing of this story seems to be on purpose.
Don't let the media play you like a fiddle.
Don't let the media play you like a fiddle.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 7:27 pm to Jim Rockford
People this has a lot less to do with a head coach and more to do with a "football" town that has a problem with not wanting to see problems that would damage their program. This is usually a community/administrative problem that is far beyond control of a coach. May be part of the reason he wants out. Not to run away from responsibility but to get out of that atmosphere period.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 7:27 pm to Jim Rockford
It doesn't matter who is hired, there will be pro and anti factions. A short honeymoon is inevitable.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 7:28 pm to The Egg
quote:
Were you crazy with how Miles handled Jevonte Domond, Jeremy hill, etc?
Not sure on thing with domond, dont even know if hes still on the team.
Hill thing didnt bother me, I used to go out in tigerland and plenty of douche bags start shite with the ball players. You had a few that were just crazy like xavier carter and that snyder dude that got booted. I never bought for one second that miles made his decision on hill because the team voted. That is pretty ridiculous.
Another angle I did think of is that Fisher had a lot of pressure on him, so maybe he caved to the whole winston thing. It was out of his hands type of thing. the community breading this behavior is exactly how i described the penn state fiasco and why they deserved to get punished. It was a culture created by the football program and the people around it that led to everyone looking the other way when children were being molested.
This post was edited on 11/26/15 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 11/26/15 at 7:30 pm to Jim Rockford
It doesn't matter what your thoughts are. The deal is done and will be finalized Monday once the BOD approves it. Get on the train or get off the tracks. 
Posted on 11/26/15 at 7:36 pm to Sampson
quote:
How about the fact he lost 59-20 in a semi final game. Scored 20 points against one of the worst pass D's in the country that season with a heisman winner at QB. How much worse is that than 21-0?
Were they blown out 3 straight times?
Was it not their first loss in 2 years?
Did they not make the playoff to begin with?
21-0 was a low moment but everything going on right now has little to nothing to do with that game.
If you're one of those people who thinks that Les has done enough to keep his job, even with 3 or more losses a year ever since 1/9 then you can't hold that one game over Jimbo. Yeah they played poorly, but it was one game. Les isn't being fired because of one game.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 7:36 pm to dgnx6
quote:believed he was reinstated during fall camp, he was accused of chokeslamming his fiance. Haven't heard much about his legal case since then, but Miles did take some heat for it.
Not sure on thing with domond, dont even know if hes still on the team.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 7:38 pm to PortCityTiger82
I get that. But hasn't FSU always had problems? Even with Bowden there?
It's like them and Miami running problem programs is all I remember about the 80's.
It's like them and Miami running problem programs is all I remember about the 80's.
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