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Mourinho vs Guardiola
Posted on 9/29/16 at 11:56 pm
Posted on 9/29/16 at 11:56 pm
Who do y'all think is the better manager? I personally like Mourinho over Guardiola but would like to know what others think
Mourinho
UEFA Champions League 2
Europa League 1
La Liga (Spain) 1
Premier League (England) 3
Serie A (Italy) 2
Primeira Liga (Portugal) 2
Copa del Rey (Spain) 1
FA Cup (England) 1
Coppa Italia 1
Taça de Portugal 1
Super Cups 4 (one in each of the four countries above)
Managerial career: 765 games played, 505 wins, 154 draws, 106 loses
Between 23 February 2002 and 2 April 2011, Mourinho went 150 home league matches unbeaten
With Real Madrid Mourinho had a 71.91 Win % and with Porto a 71,65% Win %.
He has won the FIFA World Coach of the Year (2010), IFFHS World's Best Club Coach (2004, 2004, 2010, 2012), UEFA Manager of the Year (2003, 2004)
Guardiola
Champions League 2
Fifa Club World Club 3
UEFA Super Cup 3
La Liga (Spain) 3
Bundesliga (Germany) 3
Copa del Rey (Spain) 2
German Cup 1
Spanish Super Cup 3
Managerial career: 435 games played, 317 wins, 74 draws, 44 loses
72.87 Win %
He has won the FIFA World Coach of the Year (2011), IFFHS World's Best Club Coach (2009, 2011)
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Mourinho
UEFA Champions League 2
Europa League 1
La Liga (Spain) 1
Premier League (England) 3
Serie A (Italy) 2
Primeira Liga (Portugal) 2
Copa del Rey (Spain) 1
FA Cup (England) 1
Coppa Italia 1
Taça de Portugal 1
Super Cups 4 (one in each of the four countries above)
Managerial career: 765 games played, 505 wins, 154 draws, 106 loses
Between 23 February 2002 and 2 April 2011, Mourinho went 150 home league matches unbeaten
With Real Madrid Mourinho had a 71.91 Win % and with Porto a 71,65% Win %.
He has won the FIFA World Coach of the Year (2010), IFFHS World's Best Club Coach (2004, 2004, 2010, 2012), UEFA Manager of the Year (2003, 2004)
Guardiola
Champions League 2
Fifa Club World Club 3
UEFA Super Cup 3
La Liga (Spain) 3
Bundesliga (Germany) 3
Copa del Rey (Spain) 2
German Cup 1
Spanish Super Cup 3
Managerial career: 435 games played, 317 wins, 74 draws, 44 loses
72.87 Win %
He has won the FIFA World Coach of the Year (2011), IFFHS World's Best Club Coach (2009, 2011)
LINK
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 11:59 pm to RebelVol
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This post was edited on 10/14/25 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:38 am to RebelVol
Jose wants Pep to be more like Brendan Rodgers.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:00 am to RebelVol
Right now Pep is a better tactical coach. Pep will stay true to his philosophy no matter what.
Jose will do what ever it takes to win regardless of tactics.
In the head to head Pep is up but most of that is due to his first couple years at Barca when he dominated Jose at Madrid. Jose beat him when was at Inter but once He got to Madrid those first few years it wasn't close. Make no mistake Pep had a much better team at his disposal. That last year before Pep took his year off Jose had closed the gap.
Both are great coaches for win now situations. I think they will only battle it out for 3 years as Pep is always on the look for a new challenge. While Jose claims he wants to stay around as long as United will have him.
Jose will do what ever it takes to win regardless of tactics.
In the head to head Pep is up but most of that is due to his first couple years at Barca when he dominated Jose at Madrid. Jose beat him when was at Inter but once He got to Madrid those first few years it wasn't close. Make no mistake Pep had a much better team at his disposal. That last year before Pep took his year off Jose had closed the gap.
Both are great coaches for win now situations. I think they will only battle it out for 3 years as Pep is always on the look for a new challenge. While Jose claims he wants to stay around as long as United will have him.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:28 am to StraightCashHomey21
That's the kind of answer I was looking for, thanks 
Like you said I don't think Pep is going to be around long. He's always looking to go somewhere new it seems. But with Jose I think United has always been his end game, his dream job, and I for one would love to see him build something ferguson-esce and stay for years and years
Like you said I don't think Pep is going to be around long. He's always looking to go somewhere new it seems. But with Jose I think United has always been his end game, his dream job, and I for one would love to see him build something ferguson-esce and stay for years and years
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:48 am to StraightCashHomey21
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StraightCashHomey21
Jose's recent appointment as the Manchester United manager has surely had no impact on your arguably favorable analysis on the Jose side of the Pep/Jose relationship/rivalry, right?
I kid. I'm a huge fan of both. This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 11:49 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:05 pm to mynamebowl
That was a pretty fair and balanced break down of the two. I started off saying Pep is the better tactical manager right now. He is ahead of everyone like Jose was during his first stint at Chelsea.
That's not really showing favoritism to either. I'd prefer Pep at United but his downfall is he's out in 3 years, and I'd want stability at United. Jose is a risk but he wants to be stable and stick around. So it's going to work great or blow up in our face.
That's not really showing favoritism to either. I'd prefer Pep at United but his downfall is he's out in 3 years, and I'd want stability at United. Jose is a risk but he wants to be stable and stick around. So it's going to work great or blow up in our face.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:24 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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I'd prefer Pep at United but his downfall is he's out in 3 years, and I'd want stability at United. Jose is a risk but he wants to be stable and stick around. So it's going to work great or blow up in our face.
Has Pep said that he only plans to stick around for 3 years publicly? Or is that just an assumption based on what he did at Bayern? And as far as stability, Jose's career thus far has been the exact opposite. Incredible manager, but not exactly stable.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:30 pm to mynamebowl
quote:
Has Pep said that he only plans to stick around for 3 years publicly? Or is that just an assumption based on what he did at Bayern?
He says he likes new challenges
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And as far as stability, Jose's career thus far has been the exact opposite. Incredible manager, but not exactly stable.
That was my point. He wants to be stable b/c his past is not stable at all.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:38 pm to mynamebowl
quote:No. I've seen various things thrown about, and Clichy said something about hoping to work with him for the next 5-6 years. So I do think the plan is for him to stay a bit longer at City.
Has Pep said that he only plans to stick around for 3 years publicly?
I think we can all agree that Pep probably won't complete whatever goals he's set for City in a 3 year period. It's most likely a long-term project. And I'd guess there will be plenty to keep him interested.
Now maybe Pep is a God amongst mortals, and he'll accomplish everything at City in 3 years. But I doubt it.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:37 pm to StraightCashHomey21
quote:
He says he likes new challenges
Barca, Bayern, City
lol, tough challenges there.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 10:49 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Since when does Jose bring stability to a club?
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:31 pm to RebelVol
quote:
I personally like Mourinho over Guardiola
you like him as a personality?
Jose isn't one of the top15-20 coaches in Soccer. He's an aging, bitter twat, who's troll game is getting as stale as his tactics.
He had a team quit on him for christs sake.
Jose career is up there with some of the greats, but his coaching hasn't aged well. He was an embarrassment at Chelsea this last time, and he got whipped at home by Watford, and struggled against a minnow at home on Thursday. He has to try to buy a full team of top talent to win, now. And it's debatable he could still pull it off.
Posted on 10/1/16 at 3:46 am to Oizers
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Since when does Jose bring stability to a club?
How about some reading comprehension.
Posted on 10/1/16 at 8:01 am to stlslick
quote:
He has to try to buy a full team of top talent to win, now.
As opposed to all those other top managers winning all those trophies without doing that.
Posted on 10/1/16 at 8:14 am to jturn17
quote:
No. I've seen various things thrown about, and Clichy said something about hoping to work with him for the next 5-6 years. So I do think the plan is for him to stay a bit longer at City.
I think he may stay longer as well. He even hinted at it yesterday after the embargo on his press conference details were lifted.
Pep:
“I am so happy here so I’m not just thinking about ‘will it just be three years?’"
"I can stay more time or less. Less I know will happen. It depends on the results or if the chairman is not happy with me or our job."
"But if they are happy with me I can stay that period and if I am happy and they are happy, why not longer?”
I think a big thing that drew Pep to City is that they aren't a top tier club competitively, at least as of yet. The resources to become one are certainly at the club and if he lifts City to that level then it will have been him that did it. He could literally become the club's legendary manager.
Before at Barca and at Bayern he was just another manager. Others had won the UCL and pretty much won everything else.
Posted on 10/1/16 at 8:23 am to McCaigBro69
quote:
I think a big thing that drew Pep to City is that they aren't a top tier club competitively, at least as of yet.
or his unreal salary.
Lets be real the money and the unlimited resources drew Pep to City. There are plenty of non top tier clubs he could have gone too.
City is one of the big boys now in terms of money and players.
Posted on 10/1/16 at 8:33 am to StraightCashHomey21
I thought Jose was Mr. 3 year? No reason to believe he'll be at United any longer..
Posted on 10/1/16 at 8:39 am to TFTC
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I thought Jose was Mr. 3 year? No reason to believe he'll be at United any longer..
another person lacking reading comprehension...
Posted on 10/1/16 at 8:43 am to StraightCashHomey21
What did I miss? I just made a statement...
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