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If the NFL hates the saints. What about the favorable call vs PITT?
Posted on 1/27/19 at 8:56 am
Posted on 1/27/19 at 8:56 am
In the first QTR
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 9:05 am to kjntgr
Give Pitt that win and we stomp Carolina week 17, nothing really changes. There are very few plays in NFL history you can compare to that NFCCG garbage in the final minutes.
FWIW, the angle the ref had to call the PI on Haden was behind him, seeing an extended arm into the back of Kamara while he was in the air. Nothing close to 2 or 3 refs getting the call from Buffalo Wild Wings (or Goodell) and deciding they don’t want the game to be over yet.
Posted on 1/27/19 at 9:44 am to kjntgr
You should stop because there has never been such a No-call that was so obvious and that worked to keep a team out of the Superbowl. It is unprecedented in the Superbowl era of the NFL. I'm familiar with the history of the NFL and what happened to the Saints never happened before in the history of the NFL. Nothing comes close to the obviousness of the penalty and the affect of the penalty of keeping the rightful team from the Superbowl.
Posted on 1/27/19 at 10:10 am to kjntgr
Have a downvote.
This instance actually shows how biased the officials in the NFCCG were against the saints.
If the officials are just bad, so bad they called that little bit of contact in the steelers game....hth did they miss the call at the end of the NFCCG?
It was so much worse, it had to be bias or intent, especially when MULTIPLE officials kept their flags in their pockets.
This instance actually shows how biased the officials in the NFCCG were against the saints.
If the officials are just bad, so bad they called that little bit of contact in the steelers game....hth did they miss the call at the end of the NFCCG?
It was so much worse, it had to be bias or intent, especially when MULTIPLE officials kept their flags in their pockets.
Posted on 1/27/19 at 11:18 am to LafTiger
I guess it helps you sleep at night to blame a loss on a ref
Posted on 1/27/19 at 1:00 pm to kjntgr
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kjntgr
7k+ posts defending the NFL and still has yet to come close to even a partial glimmer of defending the indefensible
Posted on 1/27/19 at 1:05 pm to kjntgr
How many posts about it do you need to start? We get it, you're a dumbass.
Posted on 1/27/19 at 1:13 pm to kjntgr
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kjntgr
Blown call late in the game of NFCCG > Blown call in regular season game in first half
The fact that you can’t see this goes to show how ridiculous this argument is. One call didn’t cost a team a Super Bowl berth. The other one did.
Posted on 1/27/19 at 1:20 pm to kjntgr
Lol you are comparing a call in the first quarter of a regular season game to the worst No-Call in sports history in an NFC championship game?
Holy crap this is one of the worst and embarrassing attempts at a ”Gotcha” that I have ever seen. You are either mentally challenged or...nope you are just mentally challenged.
Holy crap this is one of the worst and embarrassing attempts at a ”Gotcha” that I have ever seen. You are either mentally challenged or...nope you are just mentally challenged.
Posted on 1/27/19 at 1:50 pm to kjntgr
What about it? It was a ticky-tack call (as ticky-tack as they come, I agree) that extended a drive and resulted in a high-percentage TD scenario. It’s not like you can’t point to dozens more just like it all across the league this season. 
Refs were obviously aware that audiences tend to favor offense-heavy games, so they appeared to call a lot of them to slant the advantage to the offense (especially in close games). It’s nothing new, and is pretty widespread in the regular season.
If you’re trying to equate the bad call against Pitt with the bad no-call against NO, though, they’re not even in the same stratosphere. Kamara did nothing wrong and didn’t even petition to have Haden called for PI, and—no matter how bad the call was—it came with 3+ quarters left to play in a regular season game. The Rams, on the other hand:
1) got beat so badly on the coverage that their DB committed a blatant and admitted DPI compounded by at least one “player safety” PF
2) around their own 5-yard line in full, unobstructed view of two officials
3) with under 2 minutes left in regulation
4) because he saw it as the only way prevent the Saints from successfully executing a play
5) that would have subsequently allowed them to kneel 3 times and attempt a go-ahead chip shot FG
6) right as time expired
7) with a kicker whose FG accuracy is 100% inside of 30 yards
8) in an NFC championship game.
Find another call in NFL history that is comparable on those points and we can talk about how “every team has suffered like this at least once”.
If (when) you can’t and are tempted to play the “woulda, coulda, shoulda” card regarding points left on the field or calls that were/weren’t made in regulation, then recognize that there probably isn’t a Saints fan alive who wouldn’t eagerly go back to that pivotal moment in the game and play it out from there with the penalty enforced, and accept whatever legally happens on the field after that. Then we could all see if they’d truly done enough to win in a reasonably fair game or not.
In the final analysis, though, I’m not sure it would have mattered all that much who was lining up across from the Rams for the NFC championship. The Saints and Roger Goodell have certainly had a bumpy relationship, but in this case I think the Saints either just happened to be the last team left in the Rams’ way or were victimized by the most grossly incompetent officiating crew ever assembled. Either way, I would think any NFL fan with a shred of objectivity would be concerned about what either scenario could imply for their own team or for pro football in general.
Refs were obviously aware that audiences tend to favor offense-heavy games, so they appeared to call a lot of them to slant the advantage to the offense (especially in close games). It’s nothing new, and is pretty widespread in the regular season. If you’re trying to equate the bad call against Pitt with the bad no-call against NO, though, they’re not even in the same stratosphere. Kamara did nothing wrong and didn’t even petition to have Haden called for PI, and—no matter how bad the call was—it came with 3+ quarters left to play in a regular season game. The Rams, on the other hand:
1) got beat so badly on the coverage that their DB committed a blatant and admitted DPI compounded by at least one “player safety” PF
2) around their own 5-yard line in full, unobstructed view of two officials
3) with under 2 minutes left in regulation
4) because he saw it as the only way prevent the Saints from successfully executing a play
5) that would have subsequently allowed them to kneel 3 times and attempt a go-ahead chip shot FG
6) right as time expired
7) with a kicker whose FG accuracy is 100% inside of 30 yards
8) in an NFC championship game.
Find another call in NFL history that is comparable on those points and we can talk about how “every team has suffered like this at least once”.
If (when) you can’t and are tempted to play the “woulda, coulda, shoulda” card regarding points left on the field or calls that were/weren’t made in regulation, then recognize that there probably isn’t a Saints fan alive who wouldn’t eagerly go back to that pivotal moment in the game and play it out from there with the penalty enforced, and accept whatever legally happens on the field after that. Then we could all see if they’d truly done enough to win in a reasonably fair game or not.
In the final analysis, though, I’m not sure it would have mattered all that much who was lining up across from the Rams for the NFC championship. The Saints and Roger Goodell have certainly had a bumpy relationship, but in this case I think the Saints either just happened to be the last team left in the Rams’ way or were victimized by the most grossly incompetent officiating crew ever assembled. Either way, I would think any NFL fan with a shred of objectivity would be concerned about what either scenario could imply for their own team or for pro football in general.
This post was edited on 1/27/19 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 1/27/19 at 1:52 pm to kjntgr
Nothing has ever been so obvious and not called. This was for the Super Bowl.
There is no comparing this.
There is no comparing this.
Posted on 1/27/19 at 1:55 pm to kjntgr
Go back to the rant and enjoy your mediocrity
Posted on 1/27/19 at 2:00 pm to DeepBlueSea
Exactly. Fans of all other teams, even if they happen to hate the Saints, should be very concerned with what they saw and the NFL's (non)response to it.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 6:31 pm to kjntgr
They don't hate the Saints they just want the rams in the superbowl
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:21 pm to kjntgr
There's a huge difference between a bad penalty and refusing to throw a penalty flag then waiving off another official from throwing a flag.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 11:30 pm to kjntgr
That call does lead me to believe that nfl officials aren’t necessarily fixing games, but rather just SUCK.
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