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I am now ate up with the woodworking bug. Help me with shop. What next?
Posted on 5/5/19 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 5/5/19 at 8:56 pm
What makes sense next?
My garage space is what it is. I am never going to have a 5,000 SF shop with massive drill presses and planers or 2000 dollar table saws.
Just keep that in mind, I am jealous of those of you with space and funds for such.
Here is what I got.
Hand planes. Stanley and Craftsman. Block plane, No. &, No. 5 x 2, and a No. 4.
Circ Saw and a Miter Saw. Miter saw is OK, the Circ Saw is an old Craftsman that is immortal.
I want a bench top Drill Press, Band saw (Grizzly has a 229 dollar model that interests me), and a modest table saw.
What am I missing? I am good with hand tools. I am an estate sale ninja.LAtest conquest, an old metal tool box marked $10 just sitting on a table. Nothing about contents. PRobably 50-75 dollars of old Craftsman wrenches and sockets and ratchets long extensions too.
Where should I be putting my funds.
My garage space is what it is. I am never going to have a 5,000 SF shop with massive drill presses and planers or 2000 dollar table saws.
Just keep that in mind, I am jealous of those of you with space and funds for such.
Here is what I got.
Hand planes. Stanley and Craftsman. Block plane, No. &, No. 5 x 2, and a No. 4.
Circ Saw and a Miter Saw. Miter saw is OK, the Circ Saw is an old Craftsman that is immortal.
I want a bench top Drill Press, Band saw (Grizzly has a 229 dollar model that interests me), and a modest table saw.
What am I missing? I am good with hand tools. I am an estate sale ninja.LAtest conquest, an old metal tool box marked $10 just sitting on a table. Nothing about contents. PRobably 50-75 dollars of old Craftsman wrenches and sockets and ratchets long extensions too.
Where should I be putting my funds.
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Posted on 5/5/19 at 10:03 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Squares?
Good chisels (I have a set of two cherries) are used with most joints.
Router
Do you have a good drill? The 12 volt Bosch is a beast for its size and the battery is really, really good.
I have a 3 ft T square that I use a lot.
Good chisels (I have a set of two cherries) are used with most joints.
Router
Do you have a good drill? The 12 volt Bosch is a beast for its size and the battery is really, really good.
I have a 3 ft T square that I use a lot.
Posted on 5/5/19 at 10:13 pm to bbvdd
My shop— which I consider a good shop runs around my table saw, router, chisels, and the best rotary sander you can afford.
All other beyond there are complimentary. Some more necessary than others, but the four mentioned are the foundation.
All other beyond there are complimentary. Some more necessary than others, but the four mentioned are the foundation.
Posted on 5/5/19 at 11:17 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Clamps.
In woodworking, or hell any type of fabrication for that matter but especially woodworking, a man can never have too many clamps for various uses and at various sizes.
I worked at a cabinet factory for a year while I was in college, and we would've been forced to halt production if someone came in and swiped all of the clamps (they would've needed a large box truck to do so.)
A scalable (scaled down) pneumatic system is a close 2nd and a multi-tool that's hard to beat for woodworking. You can run hvlp sprayers, sanders, nailers, etc. with it, and don't think that your scenario means it can't be done: no workspace is too small for an efficient air compressor and compressor tooling in order to get the job done. Again, it's scalable: You're not cranking out custom cabinets, so you don't need that capability. (But hopefully one day you will!)
In woodworking, or hell any type of fabrication for that matter but especially woodworking, a man can never have too many clamps for various uses and at various sizes.
I worked at a cabinet factory for a year while I was in college, and we would've been forced to halt production if someone came in and swiped all of the clamps (they would've needed a large box truck to do so.)
A scalable (scaled down) pneumatic system is a close 2nd and a multi-tool that's hard to beat for woodworking. You can run hvlp sprayers, sanders, nailers, etc. with it, and don't think that your scenario means it can't be done: no workspace is too small for an efficient air compressor and compressor tooling in order to get the job done. Again, it's scalable: You're not cranking out custom cabinets, so you don't need that capability. (But hopefully one day you will!)
Posted on 5/5/19 at 11:25 pm to TIGERBAIT84
Agree 100%
Especially on the sander. Technically you can make about any shape of wood you want with some sandpaper. Make it go around real fast and you can do shape it even easier and finish it. It won't be easy, but it can be done. A cheap rotary sander cannot be substituted for a quality one, and a router is pretty much a must-have tool at some point.
Also OP, an electric hand planer and/or belt sander are some pretty useful, compact and budget friendly woodworking tools that are very handy. I've got a craftsman belt sander that I've had for years and last I checked a decent one like it can be had for ~$100. I've got a harbor freight electric hand planer that I picked up for a project and have used the hell out of since then. It didn't cost much at all.
Especially on the sander. Technically you can make about any shape of wood you want with some sandpaper. Make it go around real fast and you can do shape it even easier and finish it. It won't be easy, but it can be done. A cheap rotary sander cannot be substituted for a quality one, and a router is pretty much a must-have tool at some point.
Also OP, an electric hand planer and/or belt sander are some pretty useful, compact and budget friendly woodworking tools that are very handy. I've got a craftsman belt sander that I've had for years and last I checked a decent one like it can be had for ~$100. I've got a harbor freight electric hand planer that I picked up for a project and have used the hell out of since then. It didn't cost much at all.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:00 am to Bigbee Hills
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Clamps.
They say you can never have enough clamps, and it's true. I have about 40 of them in various lengths and styles and will find myself running out when gluing up panels for raised panel doors, door frames, etc.
A good router with carbide tipped bits and not just steel bits as they dull so fast. And if buying bits, I prefer the 1/2 inch shank ones for more stability in the router. If you go with a router, look for plans to build a nice router table to make profiling easier than simply hand routering.
Jointer/Planer and a thickness planer are also great tools to have in the shop. That way you can buy rough sawn wood in thicker dimensions and plane it down to a thickness you can live with. The jointer trues up an edge to square and level for getting true dimensions out of your wood.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:03 am to Bigbee Hills
I agree with above.
A Table Saw will be the backbone of a woodworking shop. Doesn't have to be the best but being able to rip down stock quickly and accurately will go a long way.
Clamps - as many as you can afford, and keep adding as you can.
Air Compressor - even a small one to start with is better than nothing.
A Table Saw will be the backbone of a woodworking shop. Doesn't have to be the best but being able to rip down stock quickly and accurately will go a long way.
Clamps - as many as you can afford, and keep adding as you can.
Air Compressor - even a small one to start with is better than nothing.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:09 am to LSU alum wannabe
Router
Jointer
Plainer
Jointer
Plainer
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:35 am to bbvdd
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Squares
Check. 2 tiny ones for making sure edges are square. One medium and one large one for marking.
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chisels (I have a set of two cherries) are used with most joints.
Chisels are lacking. One good dewalt and a cheap HF set. The HF set will take an edge though. Looking for better ones though. Old through estate sales and eBay.
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Router
Got my dads old craftsman 1hp. Nothing special other than being my dads.
T-square is on my list.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:36 am to LSU alum wannabe
If you have hand planes you will need to sharpen them get a sharpening system you can get a nice mobile contractors saw that you can move around like the driveway & in the garage
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:43 am to LSU alum wannabe
band saw is pretty useless for large pieces and a jig saw will be more useful to you 1000% of the time. same goes for the drill press, thats great for working on most things in the shop but for using on woodworking projects its useless.
you "have to have" a decent table saw and you need a full blown power planner machine to get lumber to workable size and condition to start your projects with
you also need joining equipt so a good assortment of pipe clamps (the clamp slides on a regular pipe to adjust to any size needed) most jobs like tables require you have at least 6-8 of these, and then you need a bisquit cutter and dowel pin tool.
and you will want get yourself a craig jig for connecting things LINK
you "have to have" a decent table saw and you need a full blown power planner machine to get lumber to workable size and condition to start your projects with
you also need joining equipt so a good assortment of pipe clamps (the clamp slides on a regular pipe to adjust to any size needed) most jobs like tables require you have at least 6-8 of these, and then you need a bisquit cutter and dowel pin tool.
and you will want get yourself a craig jig for connecting things LINK
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 10:18 am
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:44 am to LSU alum wannabe
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This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:11 am to keakar
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band saw is pretty useless for large pieces
Ever heard of re-sawing? My band saw gets used on almost every project I do.
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same goes for the drill press, thats great for working on most things in the shop but for using on woodworking projects its useless.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:41 am to keakar
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same goes for the drill press
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on woodworking projects its useless
Unless you like drilling clean, straight holes....
Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:23 pm to the mighty weez
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Unless you like drilling clean, straight holes....
Or use a mortising chisel & drill press to cut mortises. Joinery is fun.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 2:53 pm to keakar
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band saw is pretty useless for large pieces and a jig saw will be more useful to you 1000% of the time. same goes for the drill press, thats great for working on most things in the shop but for using on woodworking projects its useless
I probably use a bandsaw more than anything else I own.
Well, it may be a toss up between the band saw and the sliding miter saw.
Drill Press, I use forstner bits quite a bit. Need a drill press for those.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 3:18 pm to bbvdd
Thought this post would stir a little shite.
I forgot that I do also have a jigsaw. 16” craftsman. I mentioned these saws previously and everybody shite on them. The band saw lovers were in full force that day.
I forgot that I do also have a jigsaw. 16” craftsman. I mentioned these saws previously and everybody shite on them. The band saw lovers were in full force that day.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:14 pm to bbvdd
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Drill Press, I use forstner bits quite a bit. Need a drill press for those.
good point,
the band saw isnt needed because you can do just as well with a skill saw or jig saw.
he wanted necessities not luxury tools, everyone would use and love to have every tool in the book but the guy was talking minimal needs
Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:16 pm to ducksnbass
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Ever heard of re-sawing?
try cutting a table top on one, ever hear of a jig saw?
the guy asked for minimal tools not whatever you want even though you dont "need" it
short of cutting table legs out of 6" stock, what else can a band saw do that a jig saw or other less expensive tool cant
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:38 pm to bbvdd
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I probably use a bandsaw more than anything else I own. Well, it may be a toss up between the band saw and the sliding miter saw. Drill Press, I use forstner bits quite a bit. Need a drill press for those.
Well, I must be doing something wrong since my table saw is my most used big power tool in my shop and the bandsaw comes in around 6th in progression.
Table Saw
Jointer/Planer
Radial Arm Saw
Thickness Planer
Router Table For Shaping
Bandsaw
Drill Press
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