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LeMahieu & Bregman starting All-Stars
Posted on 6/27/19 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 6/27/19 at 7:17 pm
I don’t follow much pro ball but just saw they released the starters. Congratulations to two former Tiger greats. I was pleasantly surprised to see LeMahieu was still in the league when he signed with the Yanks
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Posted on 6/27/19 at 7:31 pm to sportsman2582
This post was edited on 6/27/19 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 6/27/19 at 7:33 pm to sportsman2582
Great. I might watch the game this year.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 7:40 pm to PlanoPrivateer
I hope Nola can make it 
Posted on 6/27/19 at 7:43 pm to sportsman2582
Amazing.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 10:16 pm to sportsman2582
Ochinko was robbed
Posted on 6/27/19 at 11:06 pm to sportsman2582
Thats so awesome
Posted on 6/27/19 at 11:50 pm to sportsman2582
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I was pleasantly surprised to see LeMahieu was still in the league when he signed with the Yanks
He won the NL batting title in 2016 and has 3 gold gloves.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 4:37 am to sportsman2582
Right about now, Keith Law is probably typing an article, all through the night, about why Lemahieu sucks at baseball.
I know I've mentioned this before, some time ago, but I believe it was the year after Lemahieu won the NL batting title, where he made the All Star team again, and Keith Law, with so many other things he could have written about, decided to devote time to writing an article about Lemahieu being a one year wonder (even though Law was too lazy to realize that Lemehieu had been putting up solid numbers for a couple of years before he won the batting title) who was only in the All Star game because of what he had done the previous year.
Meanwhile, Lemahieu was once again batting over .300, and was probably the best defensive second baseman in the NL, if not all of MLB. But his lack of home runs apparently made him unfit to be an All Star in the eyes of the wise and powerful Keith law.
I mean, he didn't just say "hey, I don't think he should have beaten out player X", he was defiant in calling him the worst player on either All Star roster that year, who was simply getting a pass over what he termed as a "fluky 2016 year".
The guy is one of those saber metrics people, which should tell you all you need to know about his condescending, know it all attitude. Those people devote their lives to telling people that what they see is not actually real, and that average players are actually fantastic, because of some pretend mathematical theory that has nothing to do with reality. But they insist any view contrary to theirs is, in fact, not reality.
I know I've mentioned this before, some time ago, but I believe it was the year after Lemahieu won the NL batting title, where he made the All Star team again, and Keith Law, with so many other things he could have written about, decided to devote time to writing an article about Lemahieu being a one year wonder (even though Law was too lazy to realize that Lemehieu had been putting up solid numbers for a couple of years before he won the batting title) who was only in the All Star game because of what he had done the previous year.
Meanwhile, Lemahieu was once again batting over .300, and was probably the best defensive second baseman in the NL, if not all of MLB. But his lack of home runs apparently made him unfit to be an All Star in the eyes of the wise and powerful Keith law.
I mean, he didn't just say "hey, I don't think he should have beaten out player X", he was defiant in calling him the worst player on either All Star roster that year, who was simply getting a pass over what he termed as a "fluky 2016 year".
The guy is one of those saber metrics people, which should tell you all you need to know about his condescending, know it all attitude. Those people devote their lives to telling people that what they see is not actually real, and that average players are actually fantastic, because of some pretend mathematical theory that has nothing to do with reality. But they insist any view contrary to theirs is, in fact, not reality.
This post was edited on 6/28/19 at 4:40 am
Posted on 6/28/19 at 6:46 am to Metaloctopus
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The guy is one of those saber metrics people, which should tell you all you need to know about his condescending, know it all attitude. Those people devote their lives to telling people that what they see is not actually real, and that average players are actually fantastic, because of some pretend mathematical theory that has nothing to do with reality. But they insist any view contrary to theirs is, in fact, not reality.
I was with you until this part. Fwiw, Sabermetrics say DJ's good seasons have been pretty damn good, and he's a well above average 2B. DJ has accumulated more bWAR since 2015 than Bryce Harper.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 7:56 am to sportsman2582
2 great Tiger SS play 2B and 3B as Allstars. There’s gotta be a few promotional pitches in there somewhere to future Tigers.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 8:11 am to sportsman2582
Posted on 6/28/19 at 8:41 am to sportsman2582
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LeMahieu & Bregman
Posted on 6/28/19 at 9:04 am to dnm3305
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He won the NL batting title in 2016 and has 3 gold gloves
That's what I was thinking. I am actually surprised that Hunter Pence is still around. Good for him.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 9:08 am to slackster
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I was with you until this part. Fwiw, Sabermetrics say DJ's good seasons have been pretty damn good, and he's a well above average 2B. DJ has accumulated more bWAR since 2015 than Bryce Harper.
The problem is that sabermetricians have a tendency to change their formulas (such as they can be described as formulas) to fit a narrative. Keith Law, as I said, is a big sabermetrics guy, and is generally thought of as one of it's main "pushers", if you will. And he was adamant that Lemahieu was nothing but an average player, at best.
Every year, some new metric is lumped in with the rest, and it just becomes a rambling soup pot of numbers that don't mean much.
Now, there are some numbers that make sense. But those tend to be more along the lines of enhanced scouting reports or just plain common sense, which people tend to call saber metrics. Like the launch angle. Anyone can tell you that if you hit the ball at the right angle, you will stand to hit more homers. But of course, it's more complicated than just saying "hey, I'm going to change my launch angle". Asking a player to change his swing is not something that is going to work for every, or even MOST players. And then there are things like tracking where a player hits the ball most often. This has always been done, but now we have these insane shifts.
The "WAR" metric is just outrageous, to me. It's all based on an imaginary standard of what the average "replacement" player's value is, and how you produce relative to that standard. But the standard is ever changing, and seems to be lacking in explanation.
This post was edited on 6/28/19 at 9:15 am
Posted on 6/28/19 at 9:27 am to X82ndTiger
I didn’t know LeMahieu dipped
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:59 pm to sportsman2582
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I was pleasantly surprised to see LeMahieu was still in the league when he signed with the Yanks
He's leading the American League in batting average right now and is probably the Yankees MVP so far this season. He's been fun to watch.
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