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So police forces didn’t exist until slave patrols?
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:02 pm
Am I hearing and reading this right? Policing is now purely rooted in slave control?
Could have sworn civilizations throughout history had groups assigned to protection and enforcement.
I hate groups trying to usurp these types of things and change historical reference.
Damn shame.
Could have sworn civilizations throughout history had groups assigned to protection and enforcement.
I hate groups trying to usurp these types of things and change historical reference.
Damn shame.
This post was edited on 6/10/20 at 2:02 pm
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Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:10 pm to Geauxgurt
Dude, I've seen some argue that Blacks were enslaved longer than any race.
Yet, they ignore that Ancient Rome, Greece, and Egypt.
Rome alone existed for over 2000 years until it's collapse with well over 1500 years of slave ownership from all ends of the empire. Some Blacks but captured Gauls, Thracians, Visigoths, Celts Vandals, made up a large portion of the slave population. Mostly Gauls because captured Gauls were worth 5-6x the price of other slaves.
Yet, they ignore that Ancient Rome, Greece, and Egypt.
Rome alone existed for over 2000 years until it's collapse with well over 1500 years of slave ownership from all ends of the empire. Some Blacks but captured Gauls, Thracians, Visigoths, Celts Vandals, made up a large portion of the slave population. Mostly Gauls because captured Gauls were worth 5-6x the price of other slaves.
This post was edited on 6/10/20 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:12 pm to memphisplaya
I've seen the claim that Egyptians were Africans. Didn't the Egyptians enslave the Israelites?
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:14 pm to Geauxgurt
Policing in it's current form roughly began to quell workers rights in London and then transitioned to NEw York and Boston. Before that it was mostly militaries that would act as police.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:15 pm to Smeg
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I've seen the claim that Egyptians were Africans. Didn't the Egyptians enslave the Israelites?
Africa has always had, and still does have slaves to this very day.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:18 pm to Smeg
They enslaved mostly Canaanites, which were Mose's people, but had slaves defeated in battles from all over.
Israelite is now believed to have developed from Canaanite culture, which does refute the Bible's claim that the Israelites wiped out the Canaanites.
Israelite is now believed to have developed from Canaanite culture, which does refute the Bible's claim that the Israelites wiped out the Canaanites.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:20 pm to Geauxgurt
This is exactly why you erase real history. You get to make up a totally new really cool one!
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:21 pm to FiddleHead
quote:good grief. that is so ignorant. First of all, we had sheriffs and constables before police. furthermore, police departments were first established in this country to deal with immigrant control as well as former slaves moving into northern cities and towns. One can go find plenty of articles and other sources of documentation from mid 1800's on from cities like Detroit when they first established pds. They were specifically dealing with former slaves.
Policing in it's current form roughly began to quell workers rights in London and then transitioned to NEw York and Boston. Before that it was mostly militaries that would act as police.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:22 pm to Geauxgurt
Ask for their sources on this theory. I guarantee most won't be over 10-12 years old.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:25 pm to Smeg
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I've seen the claim that Egyptians were Africans
A good chunk of Egypt's people came from sub-saharan Africa. The American slaves came from the west coast of africa from other slave owners in war torn regions.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:26 pm to arcalades
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These informal modalities of policing continued well after the American Revolution. It was not until the 1830s that the idea of a centralized municipal police department first emerged in the United States. In 1838, the city of Boston established the first American police force, followed by New York City in 1845, Albany, NY and Chicago in 1851, New Orleans and Cincinnati in 1853, Philadelphia in 1855, and Newark, NJ and Baltimore in 1857 (Harring 1983, Lundman 1980; Lynch 1984). By the 1880s all major U.S. cities had municipal police forces in place.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:33 pm to FiddleHead
Heres something that will really make you guys melt, since y'all love your distorted history so much, and believe the south wasn't racist
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In the Southern states the development of American policing followed a different path. The genesis of the modern police organization in the South is the "Slave Patrol" (Platt 1982). The first formal slave patrol was created in the Carolina colonies in 1704 (Reichel 1992). Slave patrols had three primary functions: (1) to chase down, apprehend, and return to their owners, runaway slaves; (2) to provide a form of organized terror to deter slave revolts; and, (3) to maintain a form of discipline for slave-workers who were subject to summary justice, outside of the law, if they violated any plantation rules. Following the Civil War, these vigilante-style organizations evolved in modern Southern police departments primarily as a means of controlling freed slaves who were now laborers working in an agricultural caste system, and enforcing "Jim Crow" segregation laws, designed to deny freed slaves equal rights and access to the political system.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:40 pm to FiddleHead
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Law enforcement in ancient China was carried out by "prefects" for thousands of years since it developed in both the Chu and Jin kingdoms of the Spring and Autumn period
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In ancient Egypt evidence of law enforcement exists as far back as the Old Kingdom period.
Policing/Law enforcement goes back pretty far
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They are known to have made use of trained monkeys, baboons, and dogs in guard duties and catching criminals
That's the best part, though.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:43 pm to FiddleHead
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Heres something that will really make you guys melt, since y'all love your distorted history so much, and believe the south wasn't racist
Lmfaodontcare. I've never claimed that, never will. I unapologetically love the Southern people, it's institutions and its culture. Go fiddle yourself.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:45 pm to memphisplaya
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Dude, I've seen some argue that Blacks were enslaved longer than any race.
Democrats have enslaved blacks for 300+ years. Let's give them their due.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:29 pm to FiddleHead
You know someone has an agenda when they don't cite or link a source.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:46 pm to FiddleHead
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and believe the south wasn't racist
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Said no one ever
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The first formal slave patrol was created in the Carolina colonies in 1704 (Reichel 1992). Slave patrols had three primary functions:
The largest plantation and slave owner in South Carolina was a black slaveowner.
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Following the Civil War, these vigilante-style organizations evolved in modern Southern police departments
Need a link to that Wild West tale. Otherwise, it just looks like you pulled it from some Liberal Arts paper.
We said the Democrats were racist. The South was largely Democrats. It wasn't until Segregation ended and people started interacting with one another that the pendulum moved in the other direction.
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and enforcing "Jim Crow" segregation laws,
Once again, Democrats.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:47 pm to Geauxgurt
I think some in this thread are confusing a Sheriff with a police Department. We have had law enforcement for as long as recorded history, what has changed is how that is administered.
In modern times and up until a certain point in the 19th century, law enforcement was an elected position.
The police force that the north-eastern cities first developed and now what we have thoughout the nation were originally created as a type of political enforcement and were thus hired and fired. There were many police forces that were originally created with the charter to hunt escaped slaves, but this wasn't confined to the south.
In modern times and up until a certain point in the 19th century, law enforcement was an elected position.
The police force that the north-eastern cities first developed and now what we have thoughout the nation were originally created as a type of political enforcement and were thus hired and fired. There were many police forces that were originally created with the charter to hunt escaped slaves, but this wasn't confined to the south.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:47 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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Africa has always had, and still does have slaves to this very day.
And the middle east.
I'll also mention the caste system in India.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 4:09 pm to SEC. 593
quote:Yeah, it's not hard to understand. Don't even know what this thread thinks it's about.
I think some in this thread are confusing a Sheriff with a police Department. We have had law enforcement for as long as recorded history, what has changed is how that is administered.
In modern times and up until a certain point in the 19th century, law enforcement was an elected position.
The police force that the north-eastern cities first developed and now what we have thoughout the nation were originally created as a type of political enforcement and were thus hired and fired. There were many police forces that were originally created with the charter to hunt escaped slaves, but this wasn't confined to the south.
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