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Robinhood traders, led by el Presidente Dave Portnoy, beating hedge funds
Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:10 pm
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:12 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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In all seriousness, here's an article with Goldman saying retail investors are beating hedgefunds by 15% since the market bottom.
I'm one of these retail investors that has crushed it (with small amounts relatively), but it is because of a combination of luck and risky speculation.
These hedge funds play the fundamentals and in the long run, they will easily win out.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:14 pm to CatfishJohn
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I'm one of these retail investors that has crushed it (with small amounts relatively)
I think this is a lot of it. Lots of guys are saying screw it I can't do anything else, ill throw a couple grand in the market.
If they were trading their 401k I'd bet they'd be a lot more conservative.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:14 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Arbitrary endpoints and small sample sizes are fun, aren't they.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:17 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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I think this is a lot of it. Lots of guys are saying screw it I can't do anything else, ill throw a couple grand in the market.
If they were trading their 401k I'd bet they'd be a lot more conservative.
Exactly. My 10 grand in my brokerage account has been put on risky ETFs and day traded.
Long term degradation and market fluctuations would destroy my profits most likely. The market is crazy over inflated from speculation.
But I do thanks JETS for paying for new patio furniture
Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:17 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Hedge funds hedge.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:18 pm to yatesdog38
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Hedge funds hedge.
And shooters shoot playa
Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:18 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Airlines and cruises are taking us to the promised land.
I made money on spirit airlines, but for the most part these suck right now.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:19 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
$AAL
$CCL
$CCL
Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:25 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
NEM in for the day trader. 
Done played it twice and looking for a third for today.
Done played it twice and looking for a third for today.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:25 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
I worry we are in a bubble.
People are buying stocks just based upon the value rising (momentum trading). They're doing this often with borrowed funds (had no idea many of these platforms enable margin trading).
People are buying stocks just based upon the value rising (momentum trading). They're doing this often with borrowed funds (had no idea many of these platforms enable margin trading).
Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:26 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Lulz. Those RH investors beating the market are sharks feeding on the inexperienced traders. Tread carefully if you enter those waters.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:39 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
I certainly have outperformed and took some profits off the table to pay down debt before the market noticed and hammered my good fortune. I was doing WAY too well for my level of expertise.
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:06 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
yup my team is very skilled..hedge funds can not compete with us. a lot of people trying to join our trading army
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:10 pm to CatfishJohn
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These hedge funds play the fundamentals
lmao. "fundamentals" cant believe ppl still buy into that nonsense
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:13 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:
think this is a lot of it. Lots of guys are saying screw it I can't do anything else, ill throw a couple grand in the market. If they were trading their 401k I'd bet they'd be a lot more conservative.
Raises hand. This is me to a tee
Haven’t changed anything in my retirement accounts. I had $13,000 in cash saved up for our next home purchase. Said F it and threw it into the market end of March, heavily in retail stocks that I knew were volatile and wouldn’t frick around with if it was retirement. Up 59% to date so far through swing trading those stocks.
ETA: I'm also fortunate enough to know I am a product of timing and circumstance. In no way am I arrogant enough to think I am the next Buffett and that my strategy is sustainable for beating the market.
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:18 pm to Tigerfan56
Up 40% thanks to Penn, XOM, CIM, among others and I started with a smaller position than a lot of people.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 3:46 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
I'm up 229% in the last 6 weeks. Feels good. I like TD Ameritrade
Posted on 6/23/20 at 4:17 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:Odd take, especially for Goldman.
In all seriousness, here's an article with Goldman saying retail investors are beating hedgefunds by 15% since the market bottom.
Granted, it's no secret after-cost ROI in 2/20 structured funds struggled in the recent decade.
Regardless though, the whole point of a hedge is to take a bit off the top to protect against downside risk. So hedged performance ascent comparisons artificially originating from an absolute nadir would never be expected to outperform nonhedged accounts.
Why not measure ROI on the year rather than from the bottom?
Posted on 6/23/20 at 4:28 pm to NC_Tigah
As one would expect, it appears HFRI Composite indices outperformed the S&P ~ 2.5-fold thru the end of March.
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