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NC_Tigah
| Favorite team: | LSU  |
| Location: | Make Orwell Fiction Again |
| Biography: | Warmest climes but nurse the cruellest fangs: the tiger of Bengal crouches in spiced groves of ceaseless verdure. |
| Interests: | Cornucopian ends attained. |
| Occupation: | Physician |
| Number of Posts: | 138157 |
| Registered on: | 9/28/2003 |
| Online Status: | Not Online |
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quote:China first bros hating life right now.
Israel first bros loving life right now.
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re: Was there really an Atlantis?
Posted by NC_Tigah on 4/19/26 at 9:19 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:No, I was referencing Plato's dialogues, not the Iliad, fyi.
Homer, yes.
re: Data center tax abatements losing states billions
Posted by NC_Tigah on 4/19/26 at 9:01 am to Gee Grenouille
quote:There is no need to guess. It was laid out in specifics earlier in the thread.
I don't know what you're saying here. If an industrial plant has an emergency they use the local police and fire services. If property taxes are used to fund those services, and the company is getting a property tax abatement, then they're using services they aren't paying for.
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That is a horrible article. Was it written by AOC? Goodness!
Foregone tax revenue d/t tax breaks and/or incentives is not "losing" states a dime. It is bringing in less revenue than would be the case if the institutions were fully taxed. ............ BUT .............. if they were fully taxed, THE CENTERS WOULD NOT BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!
Here is what ""Losing States Billions" actually looks like ...
What Georgia's data centers actually generated in fiscal year 2025:
Georgia's "foregone revenue" from data center tax breaks was $472 million. So the OP authors would characterize that as "losing state money" to the tune of nearly $500M.
HOWEVER ...
Data centers concomitantly created 28,350 construction-related jobs adding $3.4 billion to the state economy, plus 5,471 operations jobs contributing another $823 million. The centers also dramatically increased property values, adding ~ $1.8 billion to assessed value, with buildings adding at least $450 million more, yielding an average of nearly $28 million in annual property tax per project. LINK
So for Georgia specifically, the math looks roughly like this: the state gives up ~$472 million in sales tax exemptions, but gets back $4.2+ billion in economic activity, thousands of jobs, and swelling local property tax rolls funding schools and infrastructure.
$4.2B is 11% of GA's 2025 budget!
That is 11% GA would not have if the Data Centers went elsewhere.
So, given the AOC-Amazon accounting premise ... i.e., "no tax breaks for 'rich' corporations," GA would have no Data Centers, and overall state revenue would be $34.75B instead of $39B.
re: Was there really an Atlantis?
Posted by NC_Tigah on 4/19/26 at 8:30 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:As he was with Troy.
Yeah ignoring the entire "this is just a parable" part of the discussion, Plato is talking about an idea passed along thousands of years via oral tradition.
quote:Not his style.
Assuming he didn't just make it up
quote:The concentric rings described by Plato scream volcanic structure.
The fact that it's an actual island
re: Was there really an Atlantis?
Posted by NC_Tigah on 4/19/26 at 8:13 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:FWIW Plato's account was reconstruction from older Egyptian sources. We can assume there might be losses in translation. E.g., Pillars of Hercules referenced other straits. Perhaps including the Stenon Kasou?
You've previously quoted Plato. Why are you ignoring his quotes now?
Here is what Santorini may have looked like prior to the Theran eruption.
quote:Possibly Santorini.
Was there really an Atlantis?
re: 3X Trump voter; GOP delegate questions Butler events
Posted by NC_Tigah on 4/19/26 at 6:47 am to SirWinston
quote:Curran's responsibility was limited to personal protection. The Pittsburgh field office was in charge of the operation.
It is weird to me that Trump made this goofy chuckle frick the head of his SS after the incompetent Keystone Cops display they put on thst day.
re: 3X Trump voter; GOP delegate questions Butler events
Posted by NC_Tigah on 4/19/26 at 6:21 am to DarthTiger
quote:Now THERE's some critical thinking. :rotflmao:
the attempt was staged imo. If Trump were such a threat to the globalists, they would send a trained professional to take him out, not some gaming geek.
re: 3X Trump voter; GOP delegate questions Butler events
Posted by NC_Tigah on 4/19/26 at 5:59 am to SirWinston
quote:Yikes!
If you cannot look at this story, and use critical thinking skills and have at least some questions, you are the problem and we need you to snap out of it.
Nary a single critical thinking skill evidenced in her entire diatribe. She'd do well to follow her own advise, actually.
quote::dunno:
It almost cost you your life. You were betrayed and arrested and falsely accused. It’s a familiar pattern that our lord and savior showed us
re: Data center tax abatements losing states billions
Posted by NC_Tigah on 4/19/26 at 5:22 am to LemmyLives
quote:It's not a "loss" at all!
It appears to be passive loss
It's like a person selling a home they originally bought for $1M.
They put it on the market for $2M.
After negotiations with the buyer, they sell it for $1.8M + $100K in realtor costs and repairs, or a $700K profit.
The OP would carry the screaming headline "Home Owner Loses $300,000 in Sale of Home!"
re: Data center tax abatements losing states billions
Posted by NC_Tigah on 4/19/26 at 5:07 am to LemmyLives
quote:That is a horrible article. Was it written by AOC? Goodness!
Shoooocking.
Foregone tax revenue d/t tax breaks and/or incentives is not "losing" states a dime. It is bringing in less revenue than would be the case if the institutions were fully taxed. ............ BUT .............. if they were fully taxed, THE CENTERS WOULD NOT BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!
Here is what ""Losing States Billions" actually looks like ...
What Georgia's data centers actually generated in fiscal year 2025:
Georgia's "foregone revenue" from data center tax breaks was $472 million. So the OP authors would characterize that as "losing state money" to the tune of nearly $500M.
HOWEVER ...
Data centers concomitantly created 28,350 construction-related jobs adding $3.4 billion to the state economy, plus 5,471 operations jobs contributing another $823 million. The centers also dramatically increased property values, adding ~ $1.8 billion to assessed value, with buildings adding at least $450 million more, yielding an average of nearly $28 million in annual property tax per project. LINK
So for Georgia specifically, the math looks roughly like this: the state gives up ~$472 million in sales tax exemptions, but gets back $4.2+ billion in economic activity, thousands of jobs, and swelling local property tax rolls funding schools and infrastructure.
$4.2B is 11% of GA's 2025 budget!
That is 11% GA would not have if the Data Centers went elsewhere.
So, given the AOC-Amazon accounting premise ... i.e., "no tax breaks for 'rich' corporations," GA would have no Data Centers, and overall state revenue would be $34.75B instead of $39B.
re: Gullibles are in a panic
Posted by NC_Tigah on 4/18/26 at 6:06 pm to rwestmore7
quote:4¢/post?
Because they keep celebrating every time DT says something and they believe it thinking “the war is over” when it’s not. They are having a hard time coming up with excuses on why this war isn’t over when their cult leader said it was over back in the beginning of March.
Your donor got ripped off!
re: I thought we had a blockage of the Hormuz Straight with our Navy
Posted by NC_Tigah on 4/18/26 at 5:04 pm to hubertcumberdale
quote:BINGO!
So we are intentionally blocking the strait and wrecking the economy?
We are blocking the strait and wrecking the Iranian economy!
Whether Iran blocks other ships or not, the US Navy guarantees not a single parcel will successfully enter or leave Iranian ports until there is a peace agreement.
quote:Straight satire!
Is the straight open or closed?
All this satire.
quote:Dude! :casty:
I thought we had a blockage of the Hormuz Straight with our Navy
Why they frick am I hearing reports that Iran has the close the straight again?
In other news, planes are heavier than air.
So why the f*ck are you hearing reports that they can actually fly?
quote:Congrats!
S&P is only up 3.9% YTD.. My Roth is up 14%. My trading account is up considerably more
You're outperforming the S&P ~400%/yr?
At that ROI, you should open your own Wall St firm.
Seriously!
Beating the S&P 3-4x/yr, you'd be a very rich man, very quickly.
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So you don't think yanking the rug out from under China, and managing a complete global reset in the process, has reestablished America as the world's singular superpower?
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I see no evidence for that
re: Pope Leo XIV says debate with Trump is not his interest at all...
Posted by NC_Tigah on 4/18/26 at 1:25 pm to Sizzle_DAWG
quote:Protected pedophiles?
Howard Lutnick
quote:Do tell.
Hahaha.. Trump is a Pedo protector....
re: 1st 90 Days Retired - portfolio allocation question
Posted by NC_Tigah on 4/18/26 at 1:07 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
quote:Ah, Fair enough. If there is a reverse tax bracket differential as you describe, that makes sense.
I dont want to leave a multi million $ traditional IRA balance to my kids just to see it potentially taxed at 32%+ when I could have converted at 22-24%.
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