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Posted on 3/25/19 at 12:32 pm to gleasongras
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Send the kids home circa 8pm.
It'll just be me and one of my best friends, both late 20's. We'll be down for shenanigans and bacon.
FYI, while I always enjoy the food, I wouldn't be coming if they didn't have the music as well. That's a big part of the experience, in my opinion, and this festival really hits it out of the park by booking a lineup that rarely books many acts I know, yet never seems to book a single act I don't enjoy listening to live. They really know their stuff.
This post was edited on 3/25/19 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 3/25/19 at 12:34 pm to t00f
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I don't listen to the music either but don't have enough detail on what they draw. Nola on Tap would be a good baseline to compare entertainment.
I think the number of teams and the amount of people on each team with just their friends and families attending Hogs to support charity combined with the teams' year round advertising/marketing provides such a massive base of festival goers vs something like NOLA on Tap.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 12:36 pm to NOFOX
I am just talking the people setting up shop at the stage and hanging out for the music not the crowd totals and where else they go.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 12:42 pm to t00f
Oh right. I don't think there is any real methodology you can use to figure out the added value of the bigger bands vs just doing local music or cheaper folk/bluegrass bands. I tend to think the music side is aspirational and the more expensive acts don't add money to the charity.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 12:44 pm to NOFOX
probably.. I was just responding to the high cost
Posted on 3/25/19 at 12:49 pm to NOFOX
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I tend to think the music side is aspirational and the more expensive acts don't add money to the charity.
I tend to disagree. You have to understand that Hogs is competing with a LOT of other festivals around South Louisiana for patrons that time of year. If they want to be different than French Quarter Fest, they can't just book locals. They need to have a unique draw, and that is what they do. The acts they book are very different from those booked at any of the other local regional festivals. If you want to hear those kinds of bands, you either have to wait for their tour to come through a place like the Joy Theater or The Varsity in BR, or you have to see them at Hogs. The music side draws ticket-buyers for certain.
It's not like there's not dozens of other BBQ cookoffs around South Louisiana that despite having lots of teams and plenty of food don't draw dick compared to Hogs. A big reason is that those competitions are hiring local cover bands or the same tired re-tread brass bands, and Hogs is doing something different.
I could be wrong, but I believe they're getting their money's worth by getting outside talent, and I say this as a local musician who would love to play at Hogs.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 12:51 pm to t00f
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well, it's higher than most nonprofits executive directors in this area but is commensurate by the annual net totals
Don Marshall, Executive Director of the N.O. Jazz and Heritage Foundation(Jazz Fest), makes less than them.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 12:54 pm to NOFOX
I set up by the stage and even still, the bands are simply background noise for me
The bands look good on an event poster and it may "legitimize" the event in the minds of the organizers. I know they take pride in the music they choose
The bands look good on an event poster and it may "legitimize" the event in the minds of the organizers. I know they take pride in the music they choose
Posted on 3/25/19 at 1:01 pm to kingbob
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It's not like there's not dozens of other BBQ cookoffs around South Louisiana that despite having lots of teams and plenty of food don't draw dick compared to Hogs. A big reason is that those competitions are hiring local cover bands or the same tired re-tread brass bands, and Hogs is doing something different.
Unless you are talking about Memphis in May, I don't know that there are any BBQ competitions with this many teams and most teams have like 20-30 members now. This is also not just a standard BBQ competition, but is a massive charity event and the first real BBQ competition in NOLA with mostly locals competing.
Hogs was big when Pat Green was closing the show. No one bought a ticket to see Pat Green. I am sure that Trampled by Turtles and Lukas Nelson bring in some festival goers, but I do not believe they sell enough tickets (to people that would not come otherwise) to cover the costs versus lesser known/cheaper folk/bluegrass acts.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 1:02 pm to SmokedBrisket2018
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Don Marshall, Executive Director of the N.O. Jazz and Heritage Foundation(Jazz Fest), makes less than them
He's also not putting on the festival by himself. They have multiple people making six figures in the Jazz Fest organization. What's your point?
Great event and no one should work for free.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 1:05 pm to GynoSandberg
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it may "legitimize" the event in the minds of the organizers. I know they take pride in the music they choose
That is why I said it is aspirational. It's Becker's thing, but I know that it causes some frustration among some of the larger fundraising teams.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 1:12 pm to Fat Harry
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What's your point?
Get more officers, directors, etc to take some of the load. No one made them quit their day jobs. It a 2 day event.
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Great event
Agree on the great event. Great idea. Great for kids and families that benefit from the money raised by all the teams.
This post was edited on 3/25/19 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 3/25/19 at 1:13 pm to SmokedBrisket2018
Board of Directors:
Zandy Rainold – Chairman of the Board
Becker Hall – Director
Rene Louapre – Director
Jennifer Bond – Director
Benjamin Guider – Director
William Wolf – Secretary
Zandy Rainold – Chairman of the Board
Becker Hall – Director
Rene Louapre – Director
Jennifer Bond – Director
Benjamin Guider – Director
William Wolf – Secretary
Posted on 3/25/19 at 1:19 pm to Fat Harry
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What's your point?
They also have $40 million in revenue.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 1:50 pm to kingbob
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Aren't those private parties for the cooking teams, though? I mean, if there's one with a bunch of F&DB folks, I'm game, but are they really that cool with random strangers party-crashing?
Yes, teams are actually selling tickets to their parties. You have to have a Hogs ticket to get in the main gate and then pay extra to the team to enter their party.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 1:57 pm to SmokedBrisket2018
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Get more officers, directors, etc to take some of the load. No one made them quit their day jobs. It a 2 day event.
Success breeds criticism....if you dislike the salaries paid, don't participate. But the salaries paid are certainly not out of line for the size of the event and amount of funds raised for the cause.
Upthread, someone cited Don Marshall's salary as being lower than those paid to Hogs operators. This is not a parallel comparison. The Jazz & Heritage Foundation doesn't produce the Jazz Fest: Festival Productions Inc (FPI), helmed by Quint Davis, produces NOJF in conjunction with AEG Live....and FPI is a for profit entity that produces a whole slew of other events. Lord only knows how much money Quint has made over the years from JazzFest, since he's been involved in production since its inception. Is anyone out there begrudging how much it costs to pay Quint & the hundreds of production employees while the NOJHF Foundation gives away a comparatively modest amount of money each year.
Huge events don't magically organize themselves...at a certain scale, they're beyond the capacity of an all volunteer force & require legitimate staffing. The organization is transparent with its salaries & the funds given to beneficiaries.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 2:02 pm to t00f
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and they quit their day jobs.
Rene did not quit his day job...not sure about the other guy
Posted on 3/25/19 at 2:04 pm to tgrbaitn08
Yep it’s heen mentioned. Just one. I got a text from someone too saying the same thing.
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