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re: Fallout 76 Wastelanders launches today, now available on Steam

Posted on 4/14/20 at 10:46 am to
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 10:46 am to
So this is your first carson experience.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 10:48 am to
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That was the plan from the beginning....


talk about a shite plan

all 6 players left will appreciate the new NPCs lololol
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 10:56 am to
I feel like coloring books are more your speed... it must be challenging going through life where even a game such as Minecraft is too complex for you to figure out.

U r re tard Ed
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 10:56 am to
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That was the plan from the beginning....


I get it conceptually, but it is garbage.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 10:59 am to
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I feel like coloring books are more your speed... it must be challenging going through life where even a game such as Minecraft is too complex for you to figure out.

U r re tard Ed


you aren't too good at this lol

because of people like you and sicboy, shitty and uninspired copy/paste games like this will continue to get made. very sad
This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 11:01 am
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 11:01 am to
Try to stay inside the lines little guy. I know you’re cranky but it’s almost nappy nap time.

I played the game for a month when it released and deleted it. Haven’t touched it since. Now that the wastelanders is dropping, I’ll redownload it, see if it’s any better now that there are npcs. I’ll still probably end up deleting it within a few weeks.

But sure, tell me again how I’m the problem
This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 11:05 am
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 11:25 am to
What's sad is elitist gamers like yourself constantly shitting on games people actually enjoy that don't fall under your category of a "real game".

People playing games you don't play have no affect on the games you do play. Get over it.
Posted by Big_Slim
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 12:57 pm to
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They've continuously put work in instead of telling their customers to frick off.


All they’ve done is essentially tell their customers to frick off with this title. Look at the canvas bag email they sent out at the game’s release and the fact they were deleting almost all negative feedback from forums and such.

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Bethesda has gone much more the way of the makers of No Man's Sky than EA when it came to fixing their mistakes.


Except for the whole Fallout First bullshite.

Not trying to shite on anyone’s good time. Just stating that Bethesda engaged in some fricked up practices with this game, and the whole trend of launching half completed live service games with the goal of completing them over the next 3 years is awful and worthy of criticism (coming from a pretty frequent Destiny player fwiw).
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 1:56 pm to
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trend of launching half completed live service games with the goal of completing them over the next 3 years is awful and worthy of criticism


this is my biggest issue of all. you enjoy mindless games that dripfeed you halfbaked content and keep you coming back for loot and shite? thats fine (though I will still poke fun at you for enjoying that).

what I absolutely cannot support (and will always roast people for) is what you described above and the people that justify it. I see it way too often on here and other sites -"but but but NOW it's a good game 2 years later." nah bruh. when people go back and play those shitty games, they encourage developers to do the same bullshite on future releases. let them eat shite
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:08 pm to
The problem is production time is even longer now but the business side of these developers don't have the patience to wait for a complete game, knowing they can release it in a certain state and work on it as they go. It's not going to go away by people refusing to buy these games anymore. Developers will just close the doors. If game prices stay the same, it's going to get worse and worse.
Posted by JetsetNuggs
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 3:46 pm to
Some reviews are looking promising

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Fallout 76 had a rough launch, but it was the game’s subsequent updates that really strained the game’s servers. While the community did its best to keep the game alive through role-playing and events, traditional MMO additions, like new combat raids, fell flat. Bethesda hoped to remedy these issues with Wastelanders, an update that promised to bring back human NPCs. I’ve spent 20 hours with the new content, which is out today, and can say that Fallout 76 is much more enjoyable now.

Actually, the game might even be sustainable now. Fallout 76’s rough areas have been hammered out, and Bethesda has managed to polish the experience up. If a player found anything fun or intriguing in Fallout 76, such as world building or politics, it’s been brought to the forefront. Some of the base flaws are still here, but Wastelanders accomplished the tough task of getting me to reinvest in a game that had worn out its welcome.
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 3:58 pm to
And yet you’re okay with a “remake” of ff7 that comes in multiple installments?

What’s the difference between fallout and ff7 in this regard? With ff7 you still have to buy 2 entire games to finish the story whereas fallout all of the additional gameplay additions are free.
This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 4:00 pm
Posted by Parmen
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 4:18 pm to
Looks promising, will wait for a sale though.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 4:45 pm to
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And yet you’re okay with a “remake” of ff7 that comes in multiple installments?

What’s the difference between fallout and ff7 in this regard? With ff7 you still have to buy 2 entire games to finish the story whereas fallout all of the additional gameplay additions are free.


not even remotely close a comparison .

in the original FFVII, you're out of Midgar in a matter of hours, and you barely get to see any of it (2 sectors and the shinra building). most areas in the game aren't even that long. each installment of FFVII is going to be the length of a mainline FF game and they're greatly expanding each town/area + integrating all the lore of the FFVII media (movies, spin-offs, etc). that's far beyond the scope of a single game given the massive amount of stuff they're adding.

that is completely different than shitass F76, Anthem, No Man Sky, etc
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 5:28 pm to
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not even remotely close a comparison .


It absolutely is.

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in the original FFVII, you're out of Midgar in a matter of hours, and you barely get to see any of it (2 sectors and the shinra building). most areas in the game aren't even that long. each installment of FFVII is going to be the length of a mainline FF game and they're greatly expanding each town/area + integrating all the lore of the FFVII media (movies, spin-offs, etc). that's far beyond the scope of a single game given the massive amount of stuff they're adding.


That’s cool.

You still have to buy TWO FULL PRICE GAMES to finish the ONE GAME remake.

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that is completely different than shitass F76, Anthem, No Man Sky, etc


Not at all. You should pay ONE time for the FULL remake. It’s ONE game. Not THREE.

By splitting up ONE game into THREE parts spread out over several years, it is no different. Well, except the fact you have to buy two entire games to finish the story of the ONE game. Whereas with the bullshite live service games you only have to buy it Once and get all of the content.
This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 5:30 pm
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 5:48 pm to
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ONE GAME remake.


i already told you, it's going to integrate story and content from the 2 spin-off games and the 2 movies, in addition to completely out-scaling the scope of the original. that's a ton of shite to cram into one game. if they put all that into one game, it would take a decade to develop and they would never make their money back, especially when there aren't microtransactions like you'd find in other live service games

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Not at all. You should pay ONE time for the FULL remake. It’s ONE game. Not THREE.


in the mind of a simpleton, perhaps. you are vastly underestimating how much more in-depth and expansive the remake is. again, it is far beyond the scope of 1 single-player game.

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By splitting up ONE game into THREE parts spread out over several years, it is no different. Well, except the fact you have to buy two entire games to finish the story of the ONE game. Whereas with the bullshite live service games you only have to buy it Once and get all of the content.


with something like fallout or Destiny, you are home free once you have the world built and populated. it's easy to add shitty busy-work side content, loot, and radiant quests for players to consume so that they think you're putting out content and creating more value for them. with FFVII, you are building completely new scripts, environments, areas, cities, characters (all who have to be animated and voiced), enemies, etc - and it's all on a technical level far in excess of something lazy like Fallout, who didnt even bother to add NPCs until 1.5 years later

I'm sure there's a game you could for a better example in your argument, but you saw me posting in the FFVII thread and were desperate to have something to use for your rebuttal
This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 5:52 pm
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 5:51 pm to
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already told you, it's going to integrate story and content from the 2 spin-off games and the 2 movies, in addition to completely out-scaling the scope of the original. that's a ton of shite to cram into one game. if they put all that into one game, it would take a decade to develop and they would never make their money back, especially when there aren't microtransactions like you'd find in other live service games


Oh no! Sounds like Carson is making excuses for splitting one game into three parts.

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the mind of a simpleton, perhaps. you are vastly underestimating how much more in-depth and expansive the remake is. again, it is far beyond the scope of 1 single-player game.

Nope. It’s a remake of 1 game. And they’re charging you 3 times for it. The beginning, middle, and end. The overall story and plot points are the same. It’s one game.
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I'm sure there's a game you could for a better example in your argument, but you saw me posting in the FFVII thread and were desperate to have something to use for your rebuttal

You can make whatever excuse you want to justify paying 3 times for 1 game.

I paid once for fallout. Regret it. Game was and probably is still shite. As are most live service games. I gave it a shot bc I love the fallout universe.

But, I get all of the additional add ons for free. Don’t have to pay for a complete new game like you have to.
This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 5:54 pm
Posted by Big_Slim
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 5:54 pm to
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Whereas with the bullshite live service games you only have to buy it Once and get all of the content.


Except for that whole Fallout First model they introduced as well as most of the interesting cosmetics and grind reduction items being locked behind a pay wall.

Bitching about FF7 is akin to complaining about the Mass Effect Trilogy not being sold as one game since it's one overarching story. It also neglects the fact that at least that game came out as one complete product and doesn't require massive updates and overhauls to make it even playable. Totally different issue if you think that the advertised content isn't worth the $60 price tag which could be a reasonable opinion.
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 5:57 pm to
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Bitching about FF7 is akin to complaining about the Mass Effect Trilogy not being sold as one game since it's one overarching story.


Not at all. The mass effect games are all entirely different games whereas ff7 is one game.

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Totally different issue if you think that the advertised content isn't worth the $60 price tag which could be a reasonable opinion.

The content of fo76 100% wasn’t worth what I paid for it which is why I stopped playing it a long arse time ago
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 5:58 pm to
yikes, you really are dense

it's pointless for me to explain further, either A) it's above your head and you just don't understand game development logistics/budgeting, or B) you're choosing to entrench yourself in your position and refuse to budge no matter what points I or any others make. I'm leaning towards B

enjoy your shitty copy/paste games
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