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re: Nintendo Switch Presentation 1/12/17 11 PM ET
Posted on 1/17/17 at 8:59 pm to Freauxzen
Posted on 1/17/17 at 8:59 pm to Freauxzen
I've seen the patent. Just need them to actually implement something like that. I won't believe Nintendo is truly behind something like this until there is far more evidence.
Remember this?
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Remember this?
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:18 pm to oauron
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Remember this? LINK
I still never saw the point of that. I mean they WERE ahead of the Fitbit craze on that, but they never capitalized and went all in.
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I've seen the patent. Just need them to actually implement something like that. I won't believe Nintendo is truly behind something like this until there is far more evidence.
This is far more natural for this to happen. And given the hardware/orientation/etc. it might be the smart play all along and the way they "bridge" the mobile console gap.
Maybe what they are doing now is selling us effectively the mobile device now with a little plug in, only to sell the "console" later?
This one makes a little sense in a weird way. The vitality sensor did not. In any way.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 7:24 am to CBandits82
quote:I disagree. I'm fine with nintendo not catering to third parties.
They have to get off the Nintendo Island and see the rest of the world.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 7:30 am to Henry Jones Jr
That's fine, just expect another WiiU with similar support three years later.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 7:33 am to GalvoAg
Zelda: Wii U vs Switch
-Both launch on the same day, March 3.
-Both have a frame rate of 30fps.
-Both versions of the game offer the same content.
-On a TV, the Nintendo Switch version of the game renders in 900p while the Wii U version renders in 720p.
The Nintendo Switch version has higher-quality environmental sounds. As a result, the sound of steps, water, grass, etc. are more realistic and enhance the game’s Open-Air feel.
-The physical copy of the Wii U version will require 3GB of available memory on the Wii U system or an external drive.
-Some icons, such as onscreen buttons, differ between the two versions.
-A Special Edition and Master Edition of the Wii U version are not available.
-Both launch on the same day, March 3.
-Both have a frame rate of 30fps.
-Both versions of the game offer the same content.
-On a TV, the Nintendo Switch version of the game renders in 900p while the Wii U version renders in 720p.
The Nintendo Switch version has higher-quality environmental sounds. As a result, the sound of steps, water, grass, etc. are more realistic and enhance the game’s Open-Air feel.
-The physical copy of the Wii U version will require 3GB of available memory on the Wii U system or an external drive.
-Some icons, such as onscreen buttons, differ between the two versions.
-A Special Edition and Master Edition of the Wii U version are not available.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 7:36 am to sicboy
But 60fps/1080p....
Pretty sure people where spouting that in here.
Pretty sure people where spouting that in here.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 7:46 am to GalvoAg
Some stuff is 60fps, but was that every specifically stated about Zelda or did people just assume?
Posted on 1/18/17 at 7:51 am to sicboy
I read Zelda is 900p at 30fps.
Nintendo direct at 4 central time for Fire Emblem today.
Nintendo direct at 4 central time for Fire Emblem today.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 7:51 am to sicboy
Giant Bomb discussing the joycons and the dumb way you play ping pong (NSFW-language)
This post was edited on 1/18/17 at 7:53 am
Posted on 1/18/17 at 9:12 am to sicboy
the joycons are as exciting to me as the switch between home console and portable
my biggest concern so far is that it will not support Netflix, at least upon release. if this thing were a kick arse tablet and a home console/portable console it would have such potential.
I love that I can fit a 2TB SXSD card
I'm annoyed that the joycon pad doesn't charge and you have to buy one separately...but that's a minor annoyance
I don't like the thin lineup, but what console hasn't had that problem, and Zelda is a heavy hitter. reminds me of n64 which had wave race, 1080, but really the only thing was Mario 64, but it was so great that it was more than enough
I love the idea of playing Nintendo with a person next to me which as an adult in my early 30s, just doesn't happen. I don't want to play Mario kart with strangers online.
my biggest concern so far is that it will not support Netflix, at least upon release. if this thing were a kick arse tablet and a home console/portable console it would have such potential.
I love that I can fit a 2TB SXSD card
I'm annoyed that the joycon pad doesn't charge and you have to buy one separately...but that's a minor annoyance
I don't like the thin lineup, but what console hasn't had that problem, and Zelda is a heavy hitter. reminds me of n64 which had wave race, 1080, but really the only thing was Mario 64, but it was so great that it was more than enough
I love the idea of playing Nintendo with a person next to me which as an adult in my early 30s, just doesn't happen. I don't want to play Mario kart with strangers online.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 9:26 am to DelU249
quote:This was a missed opportunity. I was thinking Nintendo might build their OS on some version of Android, not unlike Amazon's Fire tablet. That speeds up the process of porting apps like Netflix, HBO Now/Go, Amazon Video, Hulu, etc. to their particular flavor of Android.
my biggest concern so far is that it will not support Netflix, at least upon release. if this thing were a kick arse tablet and a home console/portable console it would have such potential.
Then you sell the Switch as a powerful portable console that can double as a decent tablet. Nintendo could even make a cheesy commercial of a guy laying back on his couch reading a book on the Kindle app when a message pops up on his screen from a friend asking if he wants to play Smash. Cut to him sliding on the joy-con's and playing Smash Brothers online moments later.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 9:33 am to DieDaily
I'm optimistic it will have Netflix, HBO, etc. in the future
Posted on 1/18/17 at 9:39 am to DelU249
quote:But why not have it at launch? This release date really makes no sense to me the more I think about it. It feels like things aren't ready other than Zelda. Why even release it in March? Why not wait until the holiday?
I'm optimistic it will have Netflix, HBO, etc. in the future
Posted on 1/18/17 at 9:46 am to DieDaily
Yeah not everything is ready when you're dead set on meeting a date
I work in production logistics and it's actually something I'm doing in the same month. I can't have 30,000 the full slate but I can have 9,000 of everything and restock over the next 2 weeks knowing I won't sell out.
Production logistics are about trade offs sometimes when you have constraints that you sometimes have to work around when there is no other solution
That's why I laugh when people accuse Nintendo of intentionally shorting stock on the classic to drive scarcity demand. Sure it's possible they did that but they don't own manufacturing. They have to work around someone else's production schedule as well and maybe it was March 3rd release or October 6th and there wasn't availability in between. Maybe for Netflix and all of that it wouldn't be available in a reasonable launch window
Some people think they snap their fingers, shite out a million consoles, ship them, distribute to various locations and have them on shelves like magic but it doesn't work that way.
I work in production logistics and it's actually something I'm doing in the same month. I can't have 30,000 the full slate but I can have 9,000 of everything and restock over the next 2 weeks knowing I won't sell out.
Production logistics are about trade offs sometimes when you have constraints that you sometimes have to work around when there is no other solution
That's why I laugh when people accuse Nintendo of intentionally shorting stock on the classic to drive scarcity demand. Sure it's possible they did that but they don't own manufacturing. They have to work around someone else's production schedule as well and maybe it was March 3rd release or October 6th and there wasn't availability in between. Maybe for Netflix and all of that it wouldn't be available in a reasonable launch window
Some people think they snap their fingers, shite out a million consoles, ship them, distribute to various locations and have them on shelves like magic but it doesn't work that way.
This post was edited on 1/18/17 at 9:48 am
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:08 am to DelU249
I understand what you're saying but I don't buy that they have to release in March when their game line up is so anemic. Their last 3 home consoles shipped in November and now they suddenly don't have the logistics know-how to make that happen?
PS2: October 26, 2000
XB: November 15, 2001
GC: November 18, 2001
360: November 22, 2005
Wii: November 19, 2006
PS3: November 11, 2006
Wii U: November 18, 2012
PS4: November 15, 2013
XBO: November 22, 2013
It's certainly too late now for them to change the release date but the lack of original games available at launch indicates they should have pushed it back. If they launched in October or November they'd have a Zelda game, a Splatoon game, a Mario Kart, and a new Mario game around the corner.
PS2: October 26, 2000
XB: November 15, 2001
GC: November 18, 2001
360: November 22, 2005
Wii: November 19, 2006
PS3: November 11, 2006
Wii U: November 18, 2012
PS4: November 15, 2013
XBO: November 22, 2013
It's certainly too late now for them to change the release date but the lack of original games available at launch indicates they should have pushed it back. If they launched in October or November they'd have a Zelda game, a Splatoon game, a Mario Kart, and a new Mario game around the corner.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:41 am to DelU249
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the joycons are as exciting to me as the switch between home console and portable
I'm a little meh on this so far.
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my biggest concern so far is that it will not support Netflix, at least upon release. if this thing were a kick arse tablet and a home console/portable console it would have such potential.
Agree here. Missed opportunity. I want to carry less gadgets, not more.
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I love that I can fit a 2TB SXSD card
Agreed.
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I don't like the thin lineup, but what console hasn't had that problem, and Zelda is a heavy hitter. reminds me of n64 which had wave race, 1080, but really the only thing was Mario 64, but it was so great that it was more than enough
I'm hoping they are slotting in good VC at release and pushing some indies to wrap up dev. Would be nice without major releases. I'm getting in Day 1, but I get Zelda annnnnddd.....?
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I love the idea of playing Nintendo with a person next to me which as an adult in my early 30s, just doesn't happen. I don't want to play Mario kart with strangers online.
I travel for work a lot, Zelda on the airplane is absolute gold to me. Xenoblade later down the line. Can't wait.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:52 am to DieDaily
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It's certainly too late now for them to change the release date but the lack of original games available at launch indicates they should have pushed it back
Given that the system will likely experience supply shortages for the first couple of months (regardless of whether or not its successful in the long term), it's somewhat prudent not to front load the software lineup. The system will sell out for the first few months simply because it's new, irrespective of what games are actually available to play. This also allows Breath of the Wild to have its moment in the spotlight.
May/June is probably when you'll start to see the amelioration of supply constraints, and will be able to walk into the store and pick one up wihout any issues. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe will be out by that point, but perhaps more importantly is the fact that E3 takes place in early June - which makes the March release date a bit more logical.
Nintendo knew the system would sell out in the first few months - the challenge is maintaining momentum throughout the course of the year. So, I don't think it's a coincidence that the system will start to become regularly stocked at retailers around the same time that E3 takes place. We know based on the leaks that Nintendo refrained from announcing quite a few titles at this past event - Mario x Rabbids RPG, Smash 4 Deluxe, and Pokemon Stars. It's likely that at least two of these will be announced at E3, which will further the momentum behind the console and keep the fans energized.
So, we could have a first party lineup that could potentially look like this -
March - Breath of the Wild
April - Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
June/July - Splatoon 2
August/September - Smash 4 Deluxe
October/November - Pokemon Stars
November - Super Mario Odyssey
That's a fairly strong first party lineup for a console that's been on the market for less than a year, especially when SMO and BotW will likely be GOTY contenders.
The fact that Nintendo recently stated that Super Mario Odyssey is essentially "done" gives credence to the notion that they're intentionally spreading out their titles over the course of the next year, and waiting until they can keep the Switch properly stocked to start churning out their first party content.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:57 am to Cs
Good perspective.
That's basically a perfect first year release for First Party and I THINK could be big for sales.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 11:04 am to Freauxzen
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That's basically a perfect first year release for First Party and I THINK could be big for sales.
Basically it is releasing early with BotW for the hardcore Zelda/Nintendo fans and will receive a steady dose of first party titles throughout the year to setup a solid lineup for the Holiday season.
People talking about the delaying it for a better launch lineup or worrying about how anemic it is at the start seem to be incapable of seeing this. If you don't care about Zelda, don't be an early adopter. Wait until Christmas and buy it (likely with a bundle) and when the backlog of games is solid.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 11:10 am to GeauxWarTigers
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People talking about the delaying it for a better launch lineup or worrying about how anemic it is at the start seem to be incapable of seeing this. If you don't care about Zelda, don't be an early adopter. Wait until Christmas and buy it (likely with a bundle) and when the backlog of games is solid.
Yeah. As soon as the info on Mario being nearly complete came out, I figured this was more of a strategic rollout rather than a big splash release.
Plus, as mentioned before, Nintendo is overly cautious about cannibalizing their own sales. They often feel that Nintendo fans will only buy one or two games over the course of months. Mario would affect Zelda sales if released at the same time. Kart and Smash and Splatoon and now ARMS, I bet they feel people would limit themselves. So if Smash is E3 news for a Fall release, you basically have those 4 games coming out over 8 months or so which is just about right.
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