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Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:20 pm to
Posted by BogeyTX
Member since Apr 2018
1007 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:20 pm to
Are they still doing the Shotgun start format? I am not hating on this and will probably watch but I like watching the tournament the final two days with everyone going off on 1. If the tournament is close it makes it awesome.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:24 pm to
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All of this over a Youtube production?


As of now, if there's no broadcast partner. There's live events on YouTube that get hundreds of thousands of concurrent viewers, if not more.

Things like YouTube have a great future, IMO. There's no trying to simulcast across multiple countries networks, YouTube is available worldwide
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:39 pm to
Going to be interesting to see what the Tour does. I expect a statement tomorrow. Someone who served on the PGA board said they could possibly make these guys repay sponsor money, clubs etc as well as possibly money won for a breach of membership.

I’m more excited to see the Tours statement then the field. Honestly tho I figured Brooks over DJ.
Posted by Tyga Woods
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:40 pm to
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“RBC is a proud partner of the PGA Tour. Our partnership is anchored with two world-class golf tournaments—the RBC Heritage and the RBC Canadian Open. The PGA Tour has been clear about its intentions in accordance with its tournament regulations should a golfer choose to play in a tournament outside the tour, including the LIV Golf Invitational Series. “We were recently made aware that Dustin Johnson made the decision to play the LIV Golf Invitational Series opener. DJ has been a valued RBC team member since 2018. While we are extremely disappointed in his decision, we wish him well.”


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In a statement to multiple outlets, Johnson’s agent David Winkle seemed to indicate Johnson was looking at the tour in the rearview mirror. "Dustin’s been contemplating this for the past two years and decided it was in his and his family’s best interest to pursue it," Winkle said. "He’s never had any issue with the PGA Tour and is grateful for all it’s given him but in the end felt this was too compelling to pass up.”


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Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7477 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:42 pm to
That looks like they know he won’t play at out again. Man I really can’t wait to see the Tour statement.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:43 pm to
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Someone who served on the PGA board said they could possibly make these guys repay sponsor money, clubs etc as well as possibly money won for a breach of membership.


PR nightmare.

I assume they'll still try to enforce the ban, but there's no way in hell they'll be able to claw back past money.
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:45 pm to
They have to make an example. And a BIG one.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:49 pm to
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As of now, if there's no broadcast partner. There's live events on YouTube that get hundreds of thousands of concurrent viewers, if not more.

Things like YouTube have a great future, IMO. There's no trying to simulcast across multiple countries networks, YouTube is available worldwide




good point and they may be trying to capture the youtube crowd as it is that avoids networks in general.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:49 pm to
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They have to make an example. And a BIG one.




Do they? It's 8 events and the Tour has over 40, half of which aren't very interesting. 10 of which are nearly unwatchable.
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7477 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:51 pm to
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Do they? It's 8 events and the Tour has over 40, half of which aren't very interesting. 10 of which are nearly unwatchable.


Yes they have to. They already commented on it to make sure nobody leaves. LIV also expects to have 14-16 tournaments in 2024. With no examples set you will see Norman push the envelope.
This post was edited on 5/31/22 at 10:52 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:52 pm to
Buying goodwill for the Saudis seems nearly impossible, but trying to claw back winnings from prior tournaments seems like a way to do it.
Posted by TiptonInSC
Aiken, SC
Member since Dec 2012
21166 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:28 am to
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Be a bombshell if he’s barred from the US Open.


To hell with the PGA Tour and USGA.

If they were consistent it would be one thing, but not a peep out of them for players playing in events in China and other countries with less than acceptable “human rights”.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 5:48 am
Posted by m57
Flyover Country
Member since May 2017
2507 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 5:52 am to
The Saudis must have told DJ there won’t be any drug testing
Posted by Batman86
Member since Mar 2020
595 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 6:17 am to
One point I’m surprised no one has made is it’s a $25M purse. 54 holes. No cut. The winner I believe gets $4M. The format appears have some team setup and individual. Shotgun starts.

The money is clearly a huge draw for a lot of these guys plus anyone who has an inkling of frustration with the tour is gonna say screw it.

A lot of these players like Garcia, Louis, Lee and Ian etc. are well into their careers and I’m sure looking to bank on their last glory years. Others just don’t give two s*its.

LINK
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37878 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 6:31 am to
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If they were consistent it would be one thing, but not a peep out of them for players playing in events in China and other countries with less than acceptable “human rights”.


Oh bullshite. China doesn’t have an LIV operating as a direct competitor to them. The PGA let’s players compete in Saudi tourneys too. Harold Varner just win the Saudi Open. But they take exception to you playing for a competitor. It’s not inconsistent. And it’s understandable. Whether or not it will be acceptable in a court of law is another question altogether. But it probably isn’t something that should even be decided by a court of law.
Posted by greenwave
Member since Oct 2011
3879 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 6:45 am to
Yeah they have to make an example out of DJ, otherwise you just look soft. And honestly do you think the PGA really cares? DJ is not a great ambassador for golf with the young crowd IMO. I don’t see him doing a lot to promote it, he sounds like a thumb when he talks and really just stays to himself. Nothing wrong with that. Kids these days are more interested in your JTs, Homas etc ones that are active on social media, doing kids events etc. I like DJ but not sure if it’s a big loss as people are making it out to be.

Can’t shed a tear at the Masters and act like you just play for $$.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 6:50 am
Posted by Zanzibaw
BR
Member since Jun 2016
2954 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 6:57 am to
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Now if the major sponsors start jettisoning these players who join LIV, that would make things interesting.


I would bet DJ's appearance fee just to play over there will be more than he makes in sponsorships per year
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 7:09 am to
Name a player that doesn’t play for the money. It’s their JOB.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 7:18 am to
The biggest surprise in the field and the guy that the PGA Tour probably hates seeing on the list the most is not DJ. It is Talor Gooch.
Posted by Art Vandelay
LOUISIANA
Member since Sep 2005
11458 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 7:35 am to
Good for him. Probably got a nice lump sum of money and gets to travel to some nice courses with less stress and less time commitment than pga events.
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