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re: Keegan Bradley expected to be named 2025 Ryder Cup Captain

Posted on 7/8/24 at 9:37 pm to
Posted by llfshoals
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Posted on 7/8/24 at 9:37 pm to
Sigh….another one with no damn clue.

Points

Max Homa - 3.5, only bright spot really on the team

Cantlay, Harman - 2 points.

JT, Brooks, Clark- 1.5 points

The Ryder Cup isn’t about what you shoot, it’s about being better than the other guy on the hole.

The European players know this. It’s a big part of why they win.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/8/24 at 9:45 pm to
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The European players know this. It’s a big part of why they win.
Um, they beat our fricking arse precisely because of how they shot. And there is no “formula”. We have kicked their asses the last two times on our soil just like they have to us.

Their strokes gained numbers

Hovland +9.72

Rahm+8.73

Fleetwood+7.82

Rory +7.59

Hatton+5.21

Rose+.39

Straka(-.38)

Lowry(-.97)

Aberg(3.84)

Hoj(-4.14)

Fitzpatrick(-4.14)

Mac(-6.48)

Dude, Jt played like shite in the RC just like he has been the last few years
This post was edited on 7/8/24 at 9:46 pm
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 7/8/24 at 9:57 pm to
They’ve been stale and business like the past couple of Ryder Cups. Shake it up and bring a very passionate Keegan. Love it.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:00 pm to
Neither side has a clue what it’s doing on foreign soil at the moment in the RC

Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20810 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:03 pm to
Like I said, you have no damn clue.

By your stats, Fowler and Aberg were comparable.

Fowler- 0 points
Aberg - 2 points

By your stats Fowler outplayed 8 of the 24 players, yet he was the only player with ZERO points.

Two of the bottom 3 American players by your stats tied for 3rd on the US team in points.

Points matter. They’re quite literally the ONLY thing that matters.

Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:04 pm to
He was pissed he didn’t make the team. I was too, he’s a competitor.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:06 pm to
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By your stats Fowler outplayed 8 of the 24 players, yet he was the only player with ZERO points.
You can play terrible golf and win in match play

You can play great golf and lose. It isn’t a difficult concept. Especially in the team play portion. It’s even more volatile using W/L when half the time you either aren’t even playing or possibly not even using your ball
This post was edited on 7/8/24 at 10:08 pm
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20810 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:29 pm to
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You can play great golf and lose. It isn’t a difficult concept.
And you can have some terrible holes, which work out to a bad score stats wise and win enough holes to….win. Match play isn’t anything like stroke play.

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Especially in the team play portion. It’s even more volatile using W/L when half the time you either aren’t even playing or possibly not even using your ball
Which is why you need what? When you figure out the answer to that, you might understand why the European players win more in Ryder Cup.

Hint…its got less to do with scores gained stats.
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
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Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:30 pm to
Match play is a different game than stroke.
We need people with a killer instinct
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:37 pm to
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We need people with a killer instinct
overplayed as well

Cantlay was our best player in Europe and he is completely flat

Nobody was worried about us in 2019 or 2021 either. It’s almost the same exact team

There doesn’t need to be any major change to the US team for 2025. Europe are the ones that need to be thinking of how to compete again on US soil
This post was edited on 7/8/24 at 10:41 pm
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
45799 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:42 pm to
I feel like it’s a combination of things. SG can be a little misleading in match play sometimes because all you’re trying to do is win the hole and play to your opponents.

Not always, but sometimes. Also, you can be fine on SG, but when it comes down to those last few holes do you have the ability to close out a match? Some dudes feel like killers, and others feel like house cats.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
110050 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:45 pm to
Problem is 100% this board would call Cantlay and homa house cats. You can find it in threads everywhere

Yet those dudes were our “killers” in 2023. You pick the best golfers at the time and roll with it.

The team that everyone wants to nuke into orbit from 2023 is virtually the same as the team that set the all time record in 2021
This post was edited on 7/8/24 at 10:47 pm
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:48 pm to
Max is a killer, and Cantlay was as motivated as ever last RC.

Honestly, my big thing is wanting people who really fricking care and prep for it like they care. Not saying it’s always going to work, but that’s my preference along with the obvious skill set that fits a course.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:51 pm to
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Max is a killer
I find that awfully convenient to say now. I don’t think anyone would have said that going into the 2023 RC

quote:

Honestly, my big thing is wanting people who really fricking care and prep for it like they care. Not saying it’s always going to work, but that’s my preference along with the obvious skill set that fits a course.
I think over the course of let’s say 6 Ryder cups if you simply say “let’s pick the guys playing the best golf” that’s going to be the best strategy

I know it sound so simple but I don’t think it really is that difficult. If two guys are similar then I agree using the course setup as the determining fact is the best step

I think the captain angle is the most over praised and over faulted thing in the entire ordeal
This post was edited on 7/8/24 at 10:53 pm
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
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Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:52 pm to
Cantlay being emotionless is what you need. That’s the point
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
110050 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:53 pm to
Ok is DJ a killer or a house cat here?

He has been horrific at Ryder cups

Mediocre

And lights out fantastic

And for someone who earlier said we need to “be more like the euros” emotionless has not been their formula. Their Ryder cup foundation players have been the polar opposite
This post was edited on 7/8/24 at 10:55 pm
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20810 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:54 pm to
Partially.

Team chemistry is massively important. You can have two good players on a team, but if they don’t like each other much or just don’t really talk to anyone else but their caddy, much less their partner it doesn’t go so well.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
45799 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:59 pm to
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Team chemistry is massively important. You can have two good players on a team, but if they don’t like each other much or just don’t really talk to anyone else but their caddy, much less their partner it doesn’t go so well.


I think you have to pair that with what makes sense to the team’s strengths. All the data people can figure that out. Burns/Scheffler obviously have great chemistry, but that pairing has been a disaster.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
45799 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 11:02 pm to
When I say Max is a killer, what I really mean is that when it feels like he gets in contention, he wins more often than not. He’s not a guy who gets a bunch of top 5s/top 10s without winning.

I didn’t really have a big issue with the picks last year when they first happened, but I feel like it’s always about learning things. Spieth having a kid 3 weeks before and not picking up a club was probably a sign that we should have left him at home considering he wasn’t even one of the top captain’s picks.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 7/8/24 at 11:02 pm to
Woods and stricker are also best friends and they have sucked balls and cock together

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