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Anyone have any experience with LLLT?

Posted on 10/24/23 at 12:37 am
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23201 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 12:37 am
I have a family member doing therapy after an injury, and the PT is using red laser therapy. Supposed to be good for soft tissue and bone healing.

I asked around among some healthcare professionals, and most of the therapists had heard of it. I've seen some studies done, and the basic gist is "we're not sure why, we think it might be stimulating mitochondria to produce more ATP"... but most of the tests do indicate some level of benefit.

I checked around online, and while I fully understand the home products aren't going to match up with the clinic stuff (the clinic said theirs cost a few grand), I ended up seeing a couple devices that had some decent reviews and ordered one. They messed up their shipping and I got 2 .

I've got some osteoarthritic pain, and this supposedly helps. Of course, if you look online, it apparently works on everything- weight loss, male pattern baldness, you name it , so I don't expect a miracle.
But again, I've looked a few NIH and other respected studies, and it seems like all of them admit they don't have a 100% "why", but their tests do show that people being treated have better results than the control group.

The device I have has 2 808nm diodes, and 12 650nm diodes.

Anyone use this, has it worked for you?
Posted by Tiger_n_Texas
Member since Aug 2014
1303 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 5:58 am to
I dont have anything much to add, but what you described sounded familiar to a thread on the tech board from a while back. Guy made one for therapy use. Discusses the benefits and ideas behind it some.

LINK
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23201 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:58 am to
Thanks, that's a great thread. The responses on here are what I wanted to know- you never know if "reviews" are just part of a scam.
But dudes on Tigerdroppings ain't making up bullshite to back up a homemade version.

I didn't buy a strap version (but I might contact the dude from here to make one ), I bought a handheld.
It's made by KTS, I think it's the one the guy got for his pet (and ankle). It's generally priced around $130 or so, around the web.

KTS has their own ebay storefront, and they are selling used ones for $56 (half the price). Used doesn't bother me, it's hard plastic and I just wiped them down with a caviwipe to disinfect it. We do that all the time with stuff at the hospital.

Like I said, they messed up the shipping on their end, thought they shipped the first one to IA (Iowa) instead, so sent me another. The first one came with a case and the device, the second was complete (had the charger, manual, glasses and soft cloth).
So I got 2 for $56, or basically $28 apiece. Sounds like a good deal, the dude making them on TD said it was costing him about $11 or so to make a strap version... I get these with a USB charged lithium battery, and a digital timer of 5-30 minutes.

In trying to determine if it actually works- excellent point about the pet models. If it works on your arthritic dog or cat, that isn't a placebo effect. And for those who've ever had a dog with arthritic hips, you know just giving them attention for 15 minutes a day doesn't ease the pain.
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